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DrivInGScHool
I have today witnessed a very ugly car .. the new Subaru WRX hatch .... looks like a mazda 323 had realtions with a toyota prius....

terrible ....

That side on pic below is better than the one i saw on the road with LED tail lights .. could also be ford focus been stepped on....

Toyota japan has applied to purchase 51% of subaru and has been given permission by japanese gov .. but not gone ahead yet .. article i found few months ago
CHA54
looks more like a cross between a mazda3 and a 1 series BMW


qkslvr
It aint' pretty. That's faw shaw. lol. it's got the Mazda SP23 profile with 07 Civic Type R tail lights. I'm sure it will look nicer in the flesh. It's taken design ques from the new Forester.
danield
Toyota actually own 9% of Fuji Heavy Industries which is the parent company of Subaru. They are planning on combining a Toyota vehicle with a Subaru motor and AWD in the future.
qkslvr
QUOTE(danield @ Oct 4 2007, 09:47 PM) *
Toyota actually own 9% of Fuji Heavy Industries which is the parent company of Subaru. They are planning on combining a Toyota vehicle with a Subaru motor and AWD in the future.


source? this sounds like juicy news yahoo.gif yahoo.gif
sportiyo
i think toyota r gonna make a 'new ae86' with subie, rear drive and high revving subie engine?
back on topic i saw the new impreza the other day, and it some how looks like daewoo Lano with cheap after market chrome tail lights
danield
Auto Salon Magazine, issue 60, page 32, at your local newsagency now for all your auto goss.

My wife thinks its nice and wants to buy one, not my cup of tea though. It looks like a stretched out civic. rolleyes.gif
Seano
Trust me the new WRX looks alot nicer in person, it also nicer to drive then the old one. My Mum works for Subaru and bought one home a few weeks ago. The GPS option is quite cool and reminded me of the Liberty.

The WRX is definately not what it use to be though, and what annoys me the most about it is the lack of a 6spd (what the?) Its still fast (yay), and it's handling is smart. You drive normally and the steering is lose and friendly but then give it some poke (for those of you in Perth going on the Roe Hwy on ramp to Kwinana Freeway north) and it gets tight and reponsive. I could feel the car trying to slip out then the electronic stability control bringing it back while doing 90 on a fairly tight on ramp - quite the cool. The handling is still good as ever, its just alot "softer" then the old one. Clutch was a bitch: think Sportivo clutch but heavier and easier to stall (more grabby - I stalled 3 times in a 20 minute drive).

The car also feels "big" inside, and it feels like a big car to drive. The hood scoop is also alot more apparent from the inside looking over the bonnet then it is from the outside.

I talked with my Mum about it and we both agreed this car is not for the young 21-25 so much anymore. They are targetting a wider audience (i.e. Golf/Mazda 3/Astra drivers), rather then being a fairly specialist car. The new target audience is primarily female middle age empty nesters for the normal Impreza range (R-RX-RS) which is reflected in it's looks. And I'd say the WRX probably falls into this category too.

I think the STI is going to be the only big "manly" one when it gets released early next year, so I for one am looking forward to the STI. Forget the WRX tongue.gif

Thats my 2 cents on my beloved WRX
qkslvr
QUOTE(Seanious @ Oct 4 2007, 10:24 PM) *
I talked with my Mum about it and we both agreed this car is not for the young 21-25 so much anymore. They are targetting a wider audience (i.e. Golf/Mazda 3/Astra drivers), rather then being a fairly specialist car. The new target audience is primarily female middle age empty nesters for the normal Impreza range (R-RX-RS) which is reflected in it's looks. And I'd say the WRX probably falls into this category too.


Yeah. I guess the Subi market research guys finally realised why insurance premiums for their beloved WRX range was so high whistling.gif whistling.gif . It must have hurt sales for the other market segment (the one you mentioned). oh well. only time will tell if subi brings the goods with the STI.
CORZZA
its ghey!!

i drove one as i was gonna buy one!

glad i stuck with the mazda
Borg
Looks like a poor attempt at a BMW 1 series clone.

One positive for Subi though...when they bring out an updated model, it can't look any worse!! Or can it?????
Seano
like the Perth Glory, the fact that it sucks doesn't mean I don't love it
DrivInGScHool
Well like toyota ,subaru have forgotten about sedan owners .... Old WRX sedan looks alot hotter than hatch ...


Bye bye sedan's ....


ohh well next people will tell me Lancer EVO are only in hatch aswell

Come on toyota ... i want lexus power in a corolla sedan ....
Mikey
QUOTE(DrivInGScHool @ Oct 5 2007, 12:33 AM) *
Well like toyota ,subaru have forgotten about sedan owners .... Old WRX sedan looks alot hotter than hatch ...


Bye bye sedan's ....


ohh well next people will tell me Lancer EVO are only in hatch aswell

Come on toyota ... i want lexus power in a corolla sedan ....


LOL good luck MATE

no offence but sedans are for old people and ugly. toyota aint going to push a corolla sedan onto the performance side.

flame on!
DrivInGScHool
thats cool no offense to any sportivo owners ... cause i happen to think 98 % factory released hatch's are ugly aswell New corolla included ....

Hot sedan's ..... BMW .. Merc .....even their hatch's look crap


I see more old people driving round in a hatchback than sedan .....
CHA54
the sedan version is due for release early next year isn't it?
MR22ZZ
you have to remember that at the end of the day, Subaru wants to win more WRC championships and with the removal of the prototype class and a return of Group N and Super 2000 as the top class car companies are making a push to release a competitive production model that will work in group N. The hatch redesign has allowed Subaru to improve their aero package, lighten the weight and greater flexibility in the rear suspension setup which is why I believe they took this direction, as opposed to any marketing ploy wink.gif
H1Rolla
Ok since when has a wrx ever been 'pretty', never. This is by far the nicest looking wrx, in my opinion. I am glad they have gone the hatch route, it looks sexy. As far as sporty goes hatches are way more sporty than a sedan, in most cases anyway.
qkslvr
QUOTE(H1Rolla @ Oct 5 2007, 02:31 PM) *
Ok since when has a wrx ever been 'pretty', never. This is by far the nicest looking wrx, in my opinion. I am glad they have gone the hatch route, it looks sexy. As far as sporty goes hatches are way more sporty than a sedan, in most cases anyway.


I dunno man! whistling.gif I drive the sportivo and love it to death but i still reakon it would be sexier as a 2door coupe. hehehe spiteful.gif
Seano
QUOTE(qkslvr @ Oct 5 2007, 12:58 PM) *
QUOTE(H1Rolla @ Oct 5 2007, 02:31 PM) *
Ok since when has a wrx ever been 'pretty', never. This is by far the nicest looking wrx, in my opinion. I am glad they have gone the hatch route, it looks sexy. As far as sporty goes hatches are way more sporty than a sedan, in most cases anyway.


I dunno man! whistling.gif I drive the sportivo and love it to death but i still reakon it would be sexier as a 2door coupe. hehehe spiteful.gif


I agree, gotta love the Coupes

Anyways I think its a great marketting ploy to keep changing their looks in different ways, keeps people talking doesn't it?
Can't wait till I can afford one.
Seano
QUOTE(rollamods @ Oct 5 2007, 09:30 AM) *
the sedan version is due for release early next year isn't it?


I'd say the STI will be a sedan (guessing), not the WRX. I'm quite certain WRX will only be in 5dr form in Australia
Strawberryface
QUOTE(Seanious @ Oct 5 2007, 05:40 PM) *
QUOTE(rollamods @ Oct 5 2007, 09:30 AM) *
the sedan version is due for release early next year isn't it?


I'd say the STI will be a sedan (guessing), not the WRX. I'm quite certain WRX will only be in 5dr form in Australia


It won't. the STI is a hatch with pumped guards, bigger wheels and quad tail pipes. It looks horn.
Seano
QUOTE(Strawberryface @ Oct 5 2007, 04:26 PM) *
QUOTE(Seanious @ Oct 5 2007, 05:40 PM) *
QUOTE(rollamods @ Oct 5 2007, 09:30 AM) *
the sedan version is due for release early next year isn't it?


I'd say the STI will be a sedan (guessing), not the WRX. I'm quite certain WRX will only be in 5dr form in Australia


It won't. the STI is a hatch with pumped guards, bigger wheels and quad tail pipes. It looks horn.


Sorry got my wires crossed, WRX sedan, STI hatch ph34r.gif
MT
i think your wires are still crossed. Thats the wrx in the picture at the top. Its a hatch.

The sti will be the same i assure u
Seano
QUOTE(micky_tee @ Oct 5 2007, 06:17 PM) *
i think your wires are still crossed. Thats the wrx in the picture at the top. Its a hatch.

The sti will be the same i assure u


What I ment was WRX will be a hatch and sedan and the STI might only be a hatch
sportiyo
mmmmmmm
XploShun
its not THAT bad.... right?

impreza RX RS... yes..

WRX.. sorta..

STi.. better

http://www.caradvice.com.au/6366/spied-200...mpreza-wrx-sti/ FTW~!!!

i just hate the new cars that have the altezza light as factory... ffs!!! its nearly a decade! and they're still on about it..

sedan looks weird...
http://www.scoobyblog.com/2006-07-06/2008-...ncept-pictures/
is250 front?
Seano
QUOTE(XploShun @ Oct 6 2007, 05:11 AM) *
its not THAT bad.... right?

impreza RX RS... yes..

WRX.. sorta..

STi.. better

http://www.caradvice.com.au/6366/spied-200...mpreza-wrx-sti/ FTW~!!!

i just hate the new cars that have the altezza light as factory... ffs!!! its nearly a decade! and they're still on about it..

sedan looks weird...
http://www.scoobyblog.com/2006-07-06/2008-...ncept-pictures/
is250 front?


That STI is so hot right now. Lol sign me up!
DrivInGScHool
Subaru would be stupid to not release a sedan ... one of the most popular sports cars ...

Thats what i mean Hot sedan ... even if it is a subaru.....smile.gif
danield
Subaru World Rally Team launch their new STI Rally car a last month in Japan and it's a hatch. Looks fatter than the WRX.
neK
hehe it looks like a hyundai LOL

http://www.hyundai.com.au/swf/default.aspx?vehicle=i30
SuperDave
Or does the Hyundai look like a wrx. The plot thickens...
laugh.gif
BigBum
That new Hyundai i30 looks like a lot of things...
Seano
Lets not forget the WRX has still got the boxter woot yahoo.gif love the noise that thing makes
SILVABULLIT
Want to look at an ugly car??? Go have a look at the new Lancer. Front end is down right rude I tell you. Feral and just a design abortion. Horrid!!!
DrivInGScHool
Just put another dint in subaru ... got emailed a pic of the new sedan ......

Looks like melted in the desert heat
qkslvr
QUOTE(DrivInGScHool @ Oct 9 2007, 09:47 PM) *
Just put another dint in subaru ... got emailed a pic of the new sedan ......


The rear looks about the same but the front looks like a warped VT Commodore. Why Subaru, WHY!!!?????? help.gif help.gif blink.gif blink.gif dry.gif unsure.gif ph34r.gif
Seano
Just saw a picture of the STI and it looks hot. Here is a quote from the email:

"Subaru has confirmed the world debut of the new generation Impreza WRX STI will take place at Tokyo Motor Show on October 24."

Pictures should be widely available on the web by then anyways. All I can say is it looks better then the WRX a bit more "muscular" but that is all. It looks good enough for me but as I've already said I'll love the WRX till I die.

Edit: Turns out the pictures are already on their website: http://www.subaru.com.au/about-subaru/new-...gn=button_home=
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