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SyxXPaC
Well DOne Mintos for breaking my 1ZZ time and proving that the 1ZZ is a force!!!

I will not post his time as ill wait for him to do that.


Also well done to Dennis foir geting a 15.4 out of his stock as a rock street trim stivo and all the other guy who ran. Dave MSSportivo

Ohh and also Pete's 93kw's getting him a 15.8 tongue.gif


Well done guys

Bill
SuiCid3
The suspense! ph34r.gif

Congrats to everyone else that had a run! smile.gif
Mintos
Thanks bill! Told you i would get it...hehe

The slip is on the way, but i do have to say, i was a little dissappointed, i definitely feel there was easily potential to shave off another 1/2 second if 1st and 2nd werent lighting up. Well it was my first time on the strip so i guess it was ok, but maybe as Bill (Syxxpac) and Bill (xoom) suggested, running with some smaller wheels might improve the traction. tongue.gif

And damn...Pete got a 15.8? On ya man, i don't think you could get that with 93kw tongue.gif tongue.gif
SyxXPaC
Post the slips int he 1/4 mile thred
CORZZA
hahaha!

Thanks bill!

pitty i only got 2 runs! i was just getting used to the car. i reckon with a little more practice im up there with bill & mintos.

Well we got to hit the track soon because its gonna start warming up.
Mintos
posted!

hey guys do you know where you can get the photos for the night?

and yeah my time is easily beatable Pete, although i have to say, unless traction problems can be rectified, (eg, semi slicks) unless you are running an F/I setupi i don't think you could get a MUCH faster time with the 1zz just with N/A mods. They don't have the gearing and powerband of the stivos that gives them an advantage down the strip.

also, sucks how not many guys got many runs, i think i got the most with 4 runs, Tom only got 2, so did Pete, it was pretty busy and about an hour got taken out by some bucket of crap Mazda spilling its guts all over the strip and another car blowing up at the starting line dry.gif

Gary_D
Often fullboost.com.au cover street meets
CORZZA
QUOTE(Mintos @ Jul 13 2006, 01:19 PM) [snapback]120659[/snapback]

posted!

hey guys do you know where you can get the photos for the night?

and yeah my time is easily beatable Pete, although i have to say, unless traction problems can be rectified, (eg, semi slicks) unless you are running an F/I setupi i don't think you could get a MUCH faster time with the 1zz just with N/A mods. They don't have the gearing and powerband of the stivos that gives them an advantage down the strip.

also, sucks how not many guys got many runs, i think i got the most with 4 runs, Tom only got 2, so did Pete, it was pretty busy and about an hour got taken out by some bucket of crap Mazda spilling its guts all over the strip and another car blowing up at the starting line dry.gif



the thing is my timing is out i keep hitting limiter! mad.gif

Need to work on that! next time let more pressure out my tyres and get as much grip as possible! i definatly feel i can at least shave off 0.1
vitagen
well done guys! excellent times
CAP
Just curious, what gear are the 1zz's crossing the line in ? 3rd?
CORZZA
i crossed in 4th i think
SyxXPaC
If you ge tthe launch right you shoudl be in 4th a tad before you cross the line.
BigBum
Congrats again. The times just keep getting better and better biggrin.gif
Mintos
if you got enough horsepower, you can make it through in 3rd tongue.gif
rolla_racer
good stuff mintos, great time biggrin.gif biggrin.gif cool.gif
blue_rolla
mintos are you crossing the line in 3rd?

i have to get into 4th just before the line, which is a tad annoying... on my first run i missed 4th tongue.gif popped straight into neutral and tried to keep hammering it unsure.gif


anyway it was an alright night, even though i only got 2 runs... i had crap times... 16.1 and a 15.9...


congratulation again mintos -thats some crazy random times you've pulled out there...i didnt even know you ewre in the running for it tongue.gif
CORZZA
we should have a Excel sheet for the best reaction times too
SyxXPaC
pete its on the sheet
i waiting for ur time so i can post the updated one up

QUOTE(Mintos @ Jul 13 2006, 04:52 PM) [snapback]120749[/snapback]

if you got enough horsepower, you can make it through in 3rd tongue.gif


Horsepower or Limiter change?? either way you can make it through in 3rd tongue.gif
CORZZA
any one got a better reaction time than .011???
CHA54
anything less that a 0.4 reaction time is a redlight
CORZZA
well i got .011 and no red light!
SyxXPaC
QUOTE(rollamods @ Jul 13 2006, 09:05 PM) [snapback]120883[/snapback]

anything less that a 0.4 reaction time is a redlight

Then why do they give you $1000 bucks for a 0.00 reaction time?
BigBum
QUOTE(rollamods @ Jul 13 2006, 09:05 PM) [snapback]120883[/snapback]

anything less that a 0.4 reaction time is a redlight


Explain please biggrin.gif
disturb3d
My turn soon guys....hopefully i'll change my clutch before i have run.

Its been a while since my last 1/4 quarter...

BTW what rpm is good for a stivo launch...

CHA54
the change between each light is 0.4sec, when racing if you get less than 0.4 reaction time you "red-light" as you are deemed to have left on or before the last organge light and before the green.

straight from the Willowbank website:
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Working The Lights


Before diving into an explanation of how to "cut a good light", you must remember two things. 1. Each lane is timed independently of the other, and 2. The timers do not start when the green light comes on!

To give an extreme example, if you were to sit on the start line until your opponent crossed the finish line and then leave, you may run a time much closer to your dial-in, , but he would easily win the race, simply because he had a much better reaction time - like around 15 seconds better! In real racing this sort of thing happens all the time, except the difference between reaction times is in hundredths of a second.

When you get your time slip after a run, look at your reaction time. Compare it to your opponent. Reaction times work on a simple principle. It measures the time from when the last amber come on to when your front wheel clears the start line beam. Now as there is exactly 4 tenths of a second between lights, it then follows that a "perfect light" will be four tenths of a second - meaning that the vehicle has cleared the stage beam at exactly the same time as the green light came on. This is shown on the time slip as .400. Anything less than this means that you left too early and red lighted (fouled) and any more than this is wasted time sitting at the start line.

Most newcomers to racing leave when the green light comes on. This will give a reaction time of well over a second. For example, if you pulled a 1.12 reaction time and your competition ran a .460, you have given away over six tenths start right at the start line. For a more graphic example, with two cars of the same performance running 100 mile an hour in the quarter mile, this .66 wasted at the start represents 96 feet or about 6 car lengths at the finish line!

So, lesson number one in cutting a good light is to forget abut the green. Try leaving as soon as you see the last amber light. You'll probably be surprised to find you did not red light. And when you get your time slip, you will be amazed at the difference in your reaction time. After that it is largely up to you and your vehicle. You should try to improve your reaction times until you can run in the mid fours. Forget about running .40's every run. Only very experienced racers with well set up cars can run reactions consistently in the low fours.

If you are puzzled why you can leave before the green light comes on, without triggering the red light ....,well, its simple. It's to do with reaction times. Firstly, your reaction to a signal, in this case the last amber will be around .17-.20. Medical studies have pegged average human reaction times at around this time. Secondly, the reaction time of your vehicle itself - the time it takes from when you stomp on the throttle to when your front tyres move out of the stage beam.

Therefore you can see that it takes almost half the time between the last amber and green to react and stand on the throttle, plus more than this time again, for your vehicle to move forward and clear the start line beam. Naturally, the slower the vehicle, the slower the "vehicle reaction" time is and the earlier you can leave on the lights.

This takes practice and varies from vehicle to vehicle.

CAP
I wouldn't know because I haven't been on the drag strip, but have been told if I ever do, to start reacting on the last amber (Treat the last amber as a green), because in the time your body actually reacts, the tree has well and truly moved into the green.

Is this what practice most of you have been using ?
SuiCid3
Is this a standard cross all drag strips?
SyxXPaC
Straight from WSID INTERNATIONAL dragway.


When the starter is satisfied both cars are in stage he presses a button which activates a countdown of the three amber lights (each four-tenths of a second apart), and then the green. If you move before the green, remember that foul light – but don’t be tardy because if your opponent gets away from the start line before you, he has an advantage which you will have to overcome if you are to beat him to the finish line. Your response time to the green light, or reaction time, will instantly appear on the scoreboard in your lane. If you want the quickest reaction time, the best advice is to stand on the throttle as soon as you see the last amber light because by the time you’ve reacted and your car has responded, the green light will just be coming on.

Cash prizemoney will be handed out at each event for the three quickest reaction times before 9pm. Also a cash pool will be added to at each meeting and will be given to the first perfect reaction time. A “perfect reaction time” is .000.
CHA54
so where does WSID measure their reaction time from?

the last amber or the green?

Most drag racing I've watched in real life and on TV measures from the last amber.

edit: WSID might be catering for the newbs with their reaction time display by measuring it from the green, the correct method might be a little to hard for those new south welshmen to comprehend wink.gif
CORZZA
who knows. all i know is that on my 1st run i got .011 no red and my opponent got .033 and all was clear.
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