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Hi folks,

Recently bought a Toyota Japanese import. 2005 Estima L. Very happy with car and price I bought it for. It did not come with remote entry key, just black ingnition key. I looked around and came up with this key,

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Toyota-Transponder-Chip-Remote-Key-for-Prado-Avensis-Tarago-120-RAV4-Kluger-/291232613955?

As a compatible with my car. Got the key delivered, put the tarago into programming mode, which comfirmed by the locking and unlocking of the doors, but it did not recognise the key. I have tried searching for other keys that might be compatible with no luck. I have sent message to the seller to see if they know which key might wrk with my car. Does anyone have any insight into this please. I went to Mr minit locksmith and they stated $400 to program key for me. The key above matches the one that Mr minit were going to program for me.

Any assistance much appreciated.

Regards

Bruce

  • 1 month later...
Posted

So many inquiries about Estima keys! (Including myself)

http://www.wholesalecarkeys.net/side-1-button-remote-key-for-toyota-cadina-estima-harrier-28050-26010-30050.html

is where I have ordered a new key for my 2002 Estima. Waiting to see if it works. Cheaper the the $150 quoted for the same thing from local locksmith. And link to forum below has info on programming your key (hopefully)

http://www.teoc.ws/community/topic/33207-reprogram-estima-remote/

Knowledge is power, these forums, and the wonderful sharing people on them have saved me HUNDREDS so far, and I have only had my Estima two weeks!

Posted

So many inquiries about Estima keys! (Including myself)

http://www.wholesalecarkeys.net/side-1-button-remote-key-for-toyota-cadina-estima-harrier-28050-26010-30050.html

is where I have ordered a new key for my 2002 Estima. Waiting to see if it works. Cheaper the the $150 quoted for the same thing from local locksmith. And link to forum below has info on programming your key (hopefully)

http://www.teoc.ws/community/topic/33207-reprogram-estima-remote/

Knowledge is power, these forums, and the wonderful sharing people on them have saved me HUNDREDS so far, and I have only had my Estima two weeks!

How did you go?? I have given up for now. I have not been able to find definitive answer on what key to get for my car. Can get it into programming mode but the key is not recognised. From What I have read My 2005 model will be a different chip type to yours (possibly), but I would be curious to know if you were succesful

Regards

Me

Posted

So many inquiries about Estima keys! (Including myself)

http://www.wholesalecarkeys.net/side-1-button-remote-key-for-toyota-cadina-estima-harrier-28050-26010-30050.html

is where I have ordered a new key for my 2002 Estima. Waiting to see if it works. Cheaper the the $150 quoted for the same thing from local locksmith. And link to forum below has info on programming your key (hopefully)

http://www.teoc.ws/community/topic/33207-reprogram-estima-remote/

Knowledge is power, these forums, and the wonderful sharing people on them have saved me HUNDREDS so far, and I have only had my Estima two weeks!

How did you go?? I have given up for now. I have not been able to find definitive answer on what key to get for my car. Can get it into programming mode but the key is not recognised. From What I have read My 2005 model will be a different chip type to yours (possibly), but I would be curious to know if you were succesful

Regards

Me

P.S I have just read your other message and am looking into it again, my biggest problem is trying to determine which key type if for my car and year. The keys don't specify this unfortunately. I am looking for an english owners/repair manual to see if it will tell me which key chipset to buy


Posted

60030 remote is for 2000 - 2003

50171 remote is for 2003+

the resellers on Fleabay normally don't know what they are selling though.

Yes the transponder chip will be different between the 05 and 02

Also Mr Minit are NOT Locksmiths, it's a very short course on key ID and cutting. Locksmithing is a 4 year apprenticeship.. Sorry, I had to say that.

  • 4 months later...
Posted

I have just started looking for my 2005 estima. Have found the key is a 302mhz (making very difficult to find a key. Almost impossible for me. I'm still looking

Posted

Hi Kathy. Can you please unscrew the back off your key, there should be some numbers on the back of the remote module, what are they?

Posted

Ok, the numbers are: CR 1220. Any help would be absolutely fantastic

Posted

Oh, on the clear plastic bit, there are 2 numbers, they are :12050 and 06G0

Posted

Would you happen to know what the other numbers would be? Thanks :-)

Posted

Would you happen to know what the other numbers would be? Thanks :-)

No, sorry.
Posted

The 12050 would be the remote module number but I don't have this listed for anything. One of the remotes from a Tarago might do the trick but it's a bit hard to test without a car to try them on.

Posted

Damn lol, ok thanks so so much for all your help. I appreciate it immensely

Posted

Oops, I was mistaken, the numbers are 12050 06g07, I didn't see the 7 as it was faded, my bad

Posted

if there is anyone here located in Adelaide with the same car I am happy to see what remote will program in to it. It would only take half an hour to go through them. Not sure if there are many Estima owners here though?

Posted

That would be fantastic! Thankyou so much and yep, there is hardly any in Canberra either :-)

Posted (edited)

60030 remote is for 2000 - 2003

50171 remote is for 2003+

the resellers on Fleabay normally don't know what they are selling though.

Yes the transponder chip will be different between the 05 and 02

Also Mr Minit are NOT Locksmiths, it's a very short course on key ID and cutting. Locksmithing is a 4 year apprenticeship.. Sorry, I had to say that.

Hey hey thanks for the info, just read the thread and great info as I’m

about to attempt to make an aftermarket remote/key flip for a customer of mine.

Appreciate the notes.

I also wanted to point out that yes you are right in the sense that Mister

Minit are not locksmiths and it is a 4 year course. However you are wrong in

suggesting that a locksmith is an auto locksmith. to be an Auto Locksmith you

do not require any qualifications to classed as an auto locky however to attend

any of the auto locksmith workshops you have to hold a locksmith licence (bureaucratic

bull*S*H**). Now in saying what I just said most locksmiths really don’t have

much of a clue about Auto Locksmithing on new vehicles (new being anything

after 1997 pretty much). Only pointed this out because I own a minit

franchise and I am the most experienced on the gold coast when it comes to car

keys, sadly there is soooo much to learn and every day I find a new challenge.

So thank you for your advice but don’t bag Minit as a whole because some of us

know what we are doing ;)

Back to the original post. Like I mentioned I’m about to attempt to make an

aftermarket unit, if successful I will post details and I will be happy to make

the remotes and sell them to those needing replacements. Please note if successful

the remote will be programmed on board however the transponder will require a

special machine to program it. Details to follow.

Kind regards.

Edited by Gold Coast Auto Locky
Posted

[Hey hey thanks for the info, just read the thread and great info as I’m

about to attempt to make an aftermarket remote/key flip for a customer of mine.

Appreciate the notes.

No problem.

However you are wrong in suggesting that a locksmith is an auto locksmith. to be an Auto Locksmith you

do not require any qualifications to classed as an auto locky however to attend

any of the auto locksmith workshops you have to hold a locksmith licence (bureaucratic

bull*S*H**)

Not quite. You are talking about licensing for Queensland where it is completely backwards. There are different security licensing depending on if you work on domestic, commercial, safes, cars, alarms etc... I don't know specifically how it works there as I am in SA but I have talked to a few locksmiths who complain about how stupid it is, as you said, bureaucratic bull*S*H**.

In other States it is a different story. For example in WA to work on cars you need a license, to plug in to them and do work diagnostically you need a separate license. Still not the best but it is better than how it is in QLD and here in SA, as we don't have any licensing here.

Also, just because someone cuts keys and programs them, repairs locks and stuff like that it doesn't make them a Locksmith. That's like if I start rebuilding engines and fixing them it doesn't make me a mechanic

Now in saying what I just said most locksmiths really don’t have

much of a clue about Auto Locksmithing on new vehicles (new being anything

after 1997 pretty much)

Completely agree. As you said there is sooo much to it and it is always evolving. Over the last couple of years it has gone the way that to keep up with it you can't be doing anything else but cars. This was the way that I decided to go a few years ago and I'm still trying to catch up :)

So thank you for your advice but don’t bag Minit as a whole because some of us

know what we are doing ;)

Sorry it came across that way.

Back to the original post. Like I mentioned I’m about to attempt to make an

aftermarket unit, if successful I will post details and I will be happy to make

the remotes and sell them to those needing replacements. Please note if successful

the remote will be programmed on board however the transponder will require a

special machine to program it. Details to follow.

Kind regards.

Most Toyotas unto 2012 can be programmed on board without a diagnostic tool, you will need the master key though.

Posted

Valid points, Qld does not actually have a recognised system for auto locksmithing, I got in touch with a few people asking to get my skills recognised and they bascially said that there is no qualification in QLD that will recognise an auto locksmith, and most of the locksmiths in SEQ have no idea about auto, there really is only about a hand full of us who have any idea and no one wants to share info so makes it hard moving forward.

Yea i had realised that the programing requires a master Key, im planning on using a little machine which makes a copy of the transponder (in about 5 seconds) then using another machine to produce the remote (similar to the K forge system however the k forge is a sack of crap) with that said im hoping i can make an after market version with little trouble, but if the above info you pointed out about the 50171 is correct am i right in assuming the programming procedure for the remote stays the same?

e.g
door open

insert remove, insert key remove,

close door, open door, close door, open door,

insert key remove key,

close door, open door, close door, open door, close door,

insert key turn to on for 2 sec then turn off and remove, ect..........

Im going out of my way to do this job while on a holiday, would rather not waste my time if it wont work. (whats funny though is the minit store in the area where im passing to do the job quoted him 200$ for a key but had no idea how to do a remote haha so you are still right about most minit store having no idea)

Posted

If you want to get some type of recognition then it might be worth contacting Skills Tech TAFE in QLD, they should be able to point you in the right direction.

Yes, K2 is rubbish. But that is what happens when you take a tool made for the US market and try and sell it here. The tool that you would be doing it with ( There is only one other option) is a much better choice.

Programming..

Door open

key in ignition and out x2

close and open door x2

key in ignition and remove

close door and insert key

On/ off 1 time to add remote

remove key

press lock and unlock together for 2 seconds

release and then press any button

Repeat for other remote

open the door or key on/ off to exit programming

Posted

If you want to get some type of recognition then it might be worth contacting Skills Tech TAFE in QLD, they should be able to point you in the right direction.

Yes, K2 is rubbish. But that is what happens when you take a tool made for the US market and try and sell it here. The tool that you would be doing it with ( There is only one other option) is a much better choice.

Programming..

Door open

key in ignition and out x2

close and open door x2

key in ignition and remove

close door and insert key

On/ off 1 time to add remote

remove key

press lock and unlock together for 2 seconds

release and then press any button

Repeat for other remote

open the door or key on/ off to exit programming

So same program for typical 50171, sick thanks,

It was skills tech who told me there is no actuall recognition for an auto locksmith, bascially told me to go become an actual lock smith. but even then they gave me the impression (and many other locksmiths) it would be a waste of time doing the whole course, love the technology soooo much fun, even got to do a H chip last year :D ive had locksmiths asking me to show them my skills so they could learn and they would help me get a locksmith ticket but that really dosnt help me because they are not the skills im looking for. *sigh* anyhow, thanks for your thoughts and info, I will keep the thread posted as to how i go.

:D

  • 2 years later...
Posted

 Too late to reply but the charges Mr minit   locksmith offered for program a key was too high.

  • 3 years later...

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