Whats a fair and good price for a GT4?

[Steve gee]

What is a fair market value? What should I offer and what traps for young players?

Edited August 18, 2006 by Steve gee

[tangcla]

What generation GT-Four - ST165, ST185 or ST205?

ST205 seem to go for about the 20-25 mark (however I'd be hesitant to sell it for under $30 if I were to sell mine - it's the last one in Australia, a collector's item! B) )

[Steve gee]

I now have the details.

It is a 1991 ST185 White Toyota Celica GT-Four

Group A Rallye

Carlos Saines Edition.

The car number is in the 140's.

Owner purchased this car about 6 years ago and has got 193000 Km on the clock.

Toyota has serviced the car in this whole period.

Here is a quick description of the vehicle.

4 new tyres

Fully reco turbo

Clutch is only 10,000 km old

6 stack CD player

New Fuel filter

Alloy wheels (Still have the original rims as well)

BOV (not fitted)

This is a totally original car and as such has the usual stone rash on the front which will be re-painted professionally.

Any advice would be appreciated.

And please dont anyone approach the owner or try to poach it, I have first option, I just came here for professional advice.

[tangcla]

I'm not too sure with the ST185 series, but if it's original, kudos for them :)

At a guess probably around the $14-15K mark?

However if your budget stretches that far, send me a PM and I'll recommend you a 185CS that my friend is selling, in immaculate condition ;)

[Roundy]

i dunno it has a few kms on it (not HEAPS but more then most of the Group A's)

i would probably say 12-14k

its good to see it has a reco turbo, cause they start to show their age at ~160k

i wouldn't be too fussed with the original rims, they are ugly imho! LOL

Traps for young people, can be very expensive to maintain, they are a major PITA to work on, so any services will cost you $$$ if u don't do it yourself.

Have u driven one yet?

[tangcla]

Traps for young people, can be very expensive to maintain, they are a major PITA to work on, so any services will cost you $$$ if u don't do it yourself.

oh, **** yes. And also the fact that the 3S-GTE, while bulletproof, can have a lot of little niggly problems which curse you to no end?! or is that just me? :D

[Roundy]

yeah indeed, and because of how tight the engine bay is they can be very hard to track down!

fortunately i have been blessed so far (if u can call it that) only real problem i have had was the turbo dying

[tangcla]

fortunately i have been blessed so far (if u can call it that) only real problem i have had was the turbo dying

That's not bad. It's only a 3hr job to replace the turbo - unless, if it was like mine when I upgraded to a Blitz turbo, the previous mob who took the turbo off put a 17mm nut instead of a standard 13mm... which ended up taking us a total of 8hrs to change turbos!!! And lining up the original solid oil lines is a nightmare and a half, without taking the exhaust manifold and radiator off :P but we were lazy (sort of).

In short - before you buy it, look at the engine bay. A lot of mechanics are reluctant to touch it, however if you have some minor mechanical knowledge you can do most things yourself without too much difficulty (having small arms/hands sure helps at times though! Have an asian friend handy ;) I'm allowed to say that cos I'm asian! :P) Changing the clutch is an engine-out job.

[Roundy]

lol i did it myself, however it isn't standard now...garrett ftw!!

and yeah as long as u have a minor mechanical knowledge it isn't too bad!

The general maintenance items (oil, air filter, fuel filter) aren't too bad (thoe fuel filter is a bitch to get at)

but if u are expecting a std one to live with a WRX u might be disappointed! they aren't slow cars by any stretch of the imagination, but they aren't super fast!

[tangcla]

hehe... get an ST205... fixes both the oil filter location, and it can eat WRXs for breakfast ;) Plus the engine is a lot stronger, mine's doing daily 18psi without a problem.

Edited August 25, 2006 by tangcla