Tonester

My 2008 Kluger has started an intermittent issue where the alarm goes off for no apparent reason. I'm geting someon to look at it next week, but in the interim I don;t want to be waking neighbours up at all hours. Is ther a way to lock the doors but not enable the alarm. Or can I just turn the alarm off while still using central locking. FYI: The alarm came with the Kluger (Grande). So not an after market. I have some extra keys (not the fob). Would this be for the alarm, to switch it off by any chance? If so, where? I had a look and can't find anything obvious...to me at least!

Nothing yet.....I rang the service department and described the problem. They suggested to try the other remote and/or change battery. All of which did nothing to solve the issue. The car is at the panel beaters at the moment. I'll take it in to get it looked at when I get the car back.

I have a 2008 Kluger and just recently I am getting an excessive number of beeps (10, in fact) when I go to unlock and open the drivers door or the front passenger door by holding the door handle. It's a smart entry system. This only happens when I grip the door handles to unlock the car. If I use the remote to unlock, all appears as normal. It's only happened after my daughter borrowed the car, so I'm hoping it's just a setting she inadvertently changed. If I recall correctly, there should only be two short beeps when the car doors are unlocked. Any clues as to how to rectify the problem?

Yes MrLee. Planning on getting rid of it asap. Need to get it fixed first :(

Just had the same thing happen to my 2008 Kluger. Oil cooler hose burst and not knowing this issue had my local mechanic repair it. A week later it blew again. Mechanic was told by toyota that it needs to be replaced with the metal hose. But guess what? Not replacement hoses available. Maybe a 2 month wait. WTF Toyota?!? Seriously? A known issue like that that renders the car un-drivable and no replacement parts available? Thanks Toyota. Never again.

Good luck with it Tonester. Definately the first time I've heard of something like this happening on any vehicle. Personally I know that I never look at the moonroof, I either tilt it, or open it all the way; if the glass had a crack or chip in it, I would notice... Is it possible that it had been damaged someway before and you hadn't noticed? Definitely no chips or cracks in it. Sheet glass does have micro-cracks. Can't see them but exist over the surface of the glass.Usually not a problem until put under stress. These micro-cracks cause crack propagation and lead to failure in the glass. Tempered glass, however, reduces the incidence of microcracks and therefore fails is greatly reduced when the glass is places under a tensile and/or impact load. A manufacturing fault perhaps in this case?? I did some googling last night and there have been some (not many) instances of spontaneous shattering of moon roofs. Not in the Kluger but in other models/makes. There was also a known problem a while back where the rear window of Toyota utes did the same thing...spontaneoulsy crack. Unsure of the reasons though. I understand that given sufficient loading, glass including tempered/toughened glass will fail. But in this case the moon roof glass was placed under normal operating conditions and should not have failed. So, it's not fit for purpose. If a rock or stone had hit it then I would accept that it was an accident and go via an insurance claim. Wait and see I suppose.

She can help me anytime! Seriously, I think at this stage some close investigation is required. Warranty was declined! Pretty vague reasons. In fact, no reason other than "it does not appear to be a manufacturing defect". Well I wonder how they can make this decision? What process did they use to arrive at this decision?? If they could demonstrate this to me then I wouldn't be so peeved off right now. This was based on photos (sent to Melbourne HQ) from the inside of the cabin. Photos from the outside could not reveal very much as the temporary plastic sheeting I had put on was not remoeved. Go figure. There was no evidence of rock/stone(s) in the space between the visor and glass. Roof box sits almost entirely over the galss. My guess is that it was (in part, at least) a result from a pressure blow out, as the truck drove passed in the opposite direction. Whatever glass remained intact was blown outwards, not inwards as one would reasonably expect if a rock has hit it. If that was the case then the glass was not "fit for purpose". I was hoping this wasn't going to happen as I now will need to pursue it more vigourously. Not happy Jan

Yep, thought of that too. Maybe a rock may have deflected off the roof box somehow and hit the moon roof. I suppose there really will be no way to tell what actually happened. The question is whether it will be a warranty issue or an insurance issue.

Something that I thought of that would tie in with that, was one of the side windows open at all when the truck went past? High pressure pulse through the cabin, lower pressure zone between the roof box and the moonroof would make things worse. All windows were closed. The moonroof visor was, thankfully, closed as well. Otherwise I might have been showered with broken glass. I had the fan on (no a/c) to get some fresh air.

Any new marks on the roof box that might point to a rock being involved? Ken. None that I could see

Hiro Interesting theory. But I've driven the same route some 34,000 kms in the same car with the same box for the part 2 years. I think a pressure differential big enough to blow out the glass moonroof is unlikely. In fact, now that I think about it the box is shaped like an aerofoil (in side x-section). So, if anything, the pressure would be greater under the box and relatively less above the box. This would mean pressure is greater above the moonroof, not underneath it. If so, then that would cause the moonroof to be pushed in, not out. I'm starting to think that IF it was a pressure thing it could have something to do with the truck passing the opposite direction. You get a massive gust of wind when travelling at speed and passing a large mass which is travelling at speed in the opposite direction. Could it be a sudden, but very quick, loss in pressure as the 2 vehicles pass each other?? Does anyone know what happens in this case?? Could the glass in the moonroof have microcracks which cause crack propagation under stress?? Happens in glass panes such as window glass. Yes, I know that glass in the moonroof would be tempered and laminated glass (or at the very least, laminated) which reduces the occurence of crack proagation, however, manufacturing variances could result in a faulty glass panel. Whatever the reason, and assuming no rocks were involved, it should not have shattered. I was driving under normal conditions at 100 kph. This should not have happened! Thoughts people??

I was driving back to Sydney on the Monaro highway earlier today. I was about 10 kms north of Cooma travelling the speed limit (100 km) on cruise control when all of a sudden I hear an almighty smash. It was at the same time (I think, as it all happened so fast) as when a truck passed in the opposite direction. My instant reaction was that my Rhino roof box had broken by some flying debris or a rock. I stopped to inspect and the box looked OK. Closer inspection revealed bits of glass on the back part of the roof. Stumped...it soon dawned on me that the moonroof had shattered. Sure enough it had. The funny thing though was that the glass that had remained intact had been blown outward, not inwards as you would expect if the moonroof had been struck by a rock. I obviously did not slide open the shade cover for fear of glass dropping into the cabin. I took it to Toyota in Fyshwick. They were great. They couldn't explain it and had seen nothing like it before. But they did help patch it up so I could continue on to Sydney. So, my question is....has this sort of thing happened before? Are there any known issues with moon/sunroof on Toyota vehicles?? A quick google throws up a few similar cases, but these are a few years old.

The iphone's bluetooth is limited to connecting to hands free units only. Probably the worst feature of the iphone is its limited bluetooth capabilities. (You can't, for example, send a file to your computer or someone else via bluetooth). However, it works great with the bluetooth hands-free in the Grande. The most lacking feature in the Grande is the lack of ipod/mp3 player connectivity. A truly mind numbing ommission. I forked over $500 to have an Soundlinq2 installed and works a treat. Go here for more info on the product Go here for another similar thread. Or just do a search on the forums.

Owner's manual simply states inspection of brakes at every service. Nothing about when change of pads might be due. Re. fleet costs: yes service, tyres and maintenance are part of the "package".....but that package is paid for by me and comes from MY pay packet, not my company's. It's part of my salary sacrifice deal, including FBT. So I do get concerned when things are done to the car if I think they might not be necessary.

Hi all My 2008 Kluger went in for its 40,000 km service the other day. Because it's on fleet management they ring the fleet compoany for the OK to do stuff and not me. However, I pay for it from pre-tax salary..so ultimately all operating and maintencance expenses come out of my own pocket. So I was a bit dismayed when I went to pick it up and was told that the front and rear brake pads were replaced and the discs were machined. WTF!?! I thought. It's a bit early to be replacing pads and machining discs. To add insult to injury the disc(s) were not machined correclty and you can hear an odd sound when braking at low speeds.I had to take thew car back today to get that rectified. I am no expert on cars and maintenance but I am thinking that the work done was somewhat premature and opportunistic (it's on fleet and they might, incorrectly, assume that it's not my car so can do extra work without complaint from me). I also asked them for a quote to replace the tyres and the guy's response was "why do you need a quote? It's on fleet isn't it?". Kind of makes me think that they approach customers who have a fleet arrangement differently. So, am I wrong about the brakes going a little early and am I wrong about the need to machine the discs? I have 43,000 kms on the clock. About 20,000 of those kms was spent on the highway so not alot of opportunity to use the brakes. Makes me wonder. What do you guys think??