Thanks mate, hopefully my little brother will continue on with the track attacking. In true Fast and Furial style, he has been 'dreaming' of owning a Supra. However, he first wants to experience a 'cheaper ' RWD, such as a S13 Silvia. This is great because we have experience in FF (The Goose and GGIII) and AWD (WRX GGII). I guess it is his turn to continue our 'track day education' :D What is great about the Echo is that it is also 4 x100...so when/if the track attack bug bites again, I can put on some semi slicks and a nice spin. Twisted Evil The Starlet is still in my front yard unfortunately. It is currently on Ebay at the moment and it appears that there are heaps of tire kickers out there, which is a shame. The 'For sale' advertisement ends in 1 day, hopefully there will be something 'acceptable' that comes out of the 21 watchers on Ebay.