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There is a post somewhere here on CAI B)

Thanks. ← OMG Not another South African :D

Does this only happen when the aircon is on? The following comment is specific to the 2ZZGE, but will apply the 1ZZ as well, imho. The ECU has an integrated idle up function. Via sensors, this function is activated and sends and receives signals from the idle control valve. Now, your idle control valve also controls your idle speed during warm up cycles after a cold start. The aircon compressor fitted to the RunX RSi is a very small unit, which saps a small amount of horsepower, when activated. But saying that, it runs a hefty 12 bar worth of pressure. When the compressor activates, it will put some strain on the engine and rpm would decrease, at idle, from +- 800 rpm to around 500 rpm. The idle up function will communicate with the control valve to up rpm, typically to around 1200 rpm. However, in extreme conditions, like a hot day in traffic where you’re pottering around at walking speed, the activation and deactivation of the compressor, together with the activities of the control valve can result in the symptom described. This is mainly attributable to the fact that there are a variety of factors that could all be applicable at that point in time. Consider that the activation and deactivation of the aircon compressor is dependent on the gas temperature, the gas pressure as well as evaporation radiator activities. This will result in continuous activation and deactivation of the compressor as well as continuous activity from the idle up function to try and compensate for this. The result is “idle hunting”. That’s the long of it. The short of it….its normal and there is no need to be concerned. Here is the link with some background to the South African owner's concerns. http://www.tolken.co.za/twincamforum/viewt...?t=5320&start=0 Hope this helps

In addition to the revised ECU and air cleaner caps (as part of the recall process), the new RunX RSi's also include a slightly revised exhaust system.

I think its got more to do with Toyota Motor Corporation's aspirations. I had an exten sive discussion with a senior manager at Toyota South Africa. Fact is, they're not in the business of making cars, but in the business of nmaking money. So whilst you and I and a host of other people thing that we need more performance orientated vehicles from TMC / TSA / TMCA, the fact is that the majority of Toyota buyers are quite content with what they've got. In fact, I'm certain that TMC view the M3 as an automotive stuff up - thats right :o They view the car as madly impractical, excessively noisy, over wheeled and very thirsty. Probably 5 percent of owners will explore the true capabilities of the car and the other 95 percent won't. Don't get mne wrong, I love the M3 - I think that its one of the best sport saloon's available, but from a Toyota point of view, they believe that its a waste of money.

You should be shot for that comment What happened to being "Proudly South African"? Manufacturer product lines are often dictated by demand and by a global supply chain management model. TSA are dictated by their Japanese counterparts. They are told what to produce and who to supply. The fact that South Africa or Audtralia or Greenland, for that matter, does not get a product, has got more to do with the bigger picture than your and my personal expectations.

Hi, from sunny South Africa :D I've seen a few posts about a "clutch adjustment" to resolve the grating gears / notch gear changes. Please provide specific details regarding this field fix. Is it an official fix by TMCA and does anyone have a copy of the technical bulletin issued to dealers? Toyota South Africa have no idea of this fix and suspect that it may have come straight from Japan. Please help B)

It won't fit in South African and Australian spoecced vehicles, because of the choice of sterring assistance used (in the UK, they use electromechanical power steerings)

As you can appreciate, its difficult to diagnose a problem on the net However, to check if it is the thrust bearing, put the car in neutral and let it idle whislt your care is at a standstill. Then put your clutch in. If a noise eminates, it will be your thrust bearing. I'm noit too sure, but this diagnosis makes sense to me based on my understanding on how the thrust bearing works.

Whats up all? OK. There's 2 different issues that I can establish that concerns you...and both are not symptomatic problems. Issue 1 When decelerating under engine compression or accererelating , particularly in lower gears under lower rpm conditions, you hear a growl / rattle coming from the transmission area entering the cabin???? All that you are hearing is transaxle activity and Toyota gearboxes are, unfortunately, notorius for this. A fieldfix has been developed for this on all Corolla models, but does not eliminate the problem completely. The transaxle cable is fitted with a damper to reduce the intrusion of this noise into the cabin. The growl, as mentioned before, is also evident under acceleration under low rpm conditions. The growl should become less noticeable as you go higher up the rev range as well as moving up to a higher gear. Its purely an NVH issue and should not concern you. Issue 2 When the engine is idling under certain conditions, a rattling / ticking noise may make its way into the cabin. This noise is amplified, under certain conditions, when the aircon unit is turned on. If you put in / engage your clutch, the noise goes away. If you experience this symptom, your car suffers from gear clatter. There is no cure for this and does not signify a malfunction. Many will tell you that it possibly would be a release or thrust bearing problem. This is not the case. The increased noise levels attributable to gearbox activity is attributable to the fact that the casings are thinner to reduce weight. The problem is amplified as the underbody sealing and noise supression is poor. Hope this helps.

Its the top part of the air box, and must be changed as it contains a less restrictive air port.

See, I told you so :P

I don't think we were supposed to feel a big difference as mentioned in the recall info provided by TMCA. I did get a silver sticker on the driver's side, just ask the dealer for it. I am not sure about the difference in the aircap but someone did mention there is a change in the inside of the cap where there is a white piece of plastic. Not sure what purpose it serves but that could be what they changed or maybe something closer to the throttle body. I might drive the car back tomorrow and ask the mechanics to provide me with more details. The gear selctor cable i have at the moment is no larger than before. There are differences but not a noticible incrrease in size. Zee Of course you're suppose to feel the difference. Theres around a 4 - 7kW gain at 7800 rpm and torque increases by up to 10Nm between 3000 and 6000 rpm, depending on where you are under full throttle. As I mentioned before, give your ECU between 200 and 500km to "learn" the parameters as these will be set during each warm up cycle. Therefore, it seemed to help us in SA to drill the car for a bit after the oil temperature and gearbox warmed up nicely. You'll see that it gets stronger with more kms. Also, on the Aircleaner cap, the inside contains a white piece of plastic. Previously, this had a "step down with a mesh type cover which was very restrictive. The newer cap looks exactly like the old one on the outside. However, the intake nozzle is shorter and wider. Also, it does not have the mesh cover.

Leather is still standard on the new facelift Sportivo's... not an option. In the UK its an option. No BS.

Bad luck mate.