vekzla

Ok so here is the update. Fuel filter job was credit back to me and they replaced the battery which cost &180, the problem seems to be fixed so far. Two days starting it with no problem. only if they picked up the battery fault 6 visits ago Thanks for your input guys

Thanks for your input. I dropped the car yesterday and the manager is handling the case now, hes not willing to give me a credit for the fuel filter job which cost me $245 as the car still struggles to start in the morning. Injectors have passed all their tests. The battery test came back and its just above normal, they changed the battery and started it however they dont want to tell me the result yet.... I am still trying to work a credit for the fuel filter job as that did not help one bit. According to them, during cold weather the car should take its time starting and its normal for it to act the way it is right now. I am no mechanic but thats a load of BS!, I am so over this car and Toyota mechanics and "toyota techs".. What happened to the old days where mechanics went out of their way to fix your car. SIGH at fail mechanics.... keepy you posted with the outcome..an other $150 towards this problem.

Yes I am holding it on start. So key it over to start and let it go? The old school ignition is not like our push-button ignition Steve. In the keyed ignition, the starter will only crank when the key is held on start. vekzla: this is now getting to the point where trying to diagnose this online is going to prove a little difficult. We could keep trying suggestions and you can keep trying them, but this would probably result in a lot of time use up and no solution found. Your best bet would be to find a reputable mechanic to check over the car for you. As for the battery issue, I have indeed heard cases similar to yours where they said the battery passed all the typical tests, but putting in a new battery fixed it. Go figure. If you can get your hands on another battery to test it, maybe that might be useful. Thank you for your reply, its great to know that there are people who are willing to help. I will keep you guys posted when a solution is reached. Thanks!

Yes I am holding it on start. So key it over to start and let it go?

They checked my electricals and gave it a pass, I checked it yesterday and it looked good.

Yeh its taking its time to start, did it again this morning. Nice watch with the wrong date hahahaha.. Here is the reply I got today from the Toyota tech via email. " I checked out the footage & it have run it by Toyota techs & they basically said that is ok sometimes the drop in temp will make a start Slightly longer but in regards to the first problem where it would die… that’s is an issue If it’s not stalling when starting its ok . that’s what they have said to me "

Yeh its taking its time to start, did it again this morning. Nice watch with the wrong date hahahaha..

Bad news!I tried this morning and it did not help at all, still took its time before it started.

OK so here is a video of me starting it this morning lol at the wrong date. I have not tried pressing in the petrol pedal technique yet. Need to turn up your volume bad recording. IMG_0584.MOV

That's a load of rubbish right there. These cars are made to run on 91 RON unleaded with no issues. Thats what I told him, I filled it up with a full tank of 98 from BP so they cant say I am not following their instructions. Once this issue is fixed I will go back to 95. Here's something to try. With the engine off, turn the key to ON and apply just a small amount of throttle... like enough to move the pedal about a centimetre. Then try to crank the engine and see how it starts. Let us know if that helps it a bit. I will try that and upload a video at the same time. I am pretty keen to take it to NRMA instead of Toyota Mechanics. I have lost count of how many times I have gone back to them.

$245 later they cleaned the fuel tank, replaced the fuel filter and toped it up with 98 octane fuel. Car started for them with no problems. Took it home and the next day it started playing up again. Called them and had it rebooked. I was told to stay away from 95 octane as it is bad for the car. The car used to take awhile to start then dies for a bit then starts again, now it takes 6-8 cranks before it starts with no troubles in the middle of the cranking process. I dont think they will find the problem. I will try and take a video of the car starting up and post it up for you guys to have a look at it.

So fuel filter changed, fuel tank cleaned and 98 octane used. Car still not starting up correct and it's still at the Toyota mechanics. Told them about fuel Pump they said no, sparkplugs are fine. I don't think they will find the problem lol :(

Thanks for your reply. The car is being checked by Toyota dealers. It passed all the electrical tests, he said it might be the petrol station where i filled in the last time. But it has been doing this since I bought the car. It just got worse and worse. They are going to fill her up with 98 octane and see how that works. I just don't understand how they cannot pin point the fault, the problem these days is they all depend on their computers to tell them where the fault is. The problem with that is sensors can pass their computer diagnoses tests marginally and register a pass but if that sensor is exposed to extreme conditions it could fail, their diagnoses tests don't allow for that. So Toyota itself is having issues trying to diagnose the problem. I cant figure out what this could be. From the looks of it fuel delivery to the engine is whats going on my mind. Something bad must have got mixed for this to happen. But like you said they have run all their tests so its something out of the box. Thanks for your reply, i have no idea what it is.. it could be a bad temp sensor that is failing and they are not picking it up or any of the faults given above..i will update you guys once i see them today.

Thank you for your input great help, once the car starts no problems at all. It was very slow and lazy to drive but once they changed the VVTI Sprocket (sludge built up) it drives great. I will quiz the toyota mechanics today.but i dont think its the fuel at all and I had it serviced with them at 45000km and they checked the filters...

Car has issues starting when its cold, the car turns over 4-6 times then dies then it cranks over 1-2 times then it fires up.