Aussie_Kymbo

I have a HJ60 Landcruiser, turbo intercooled 2H, 5 speed gear box. Now I have just acquired an FJ60, 2F 4 speed but it has a transfer case on it that has an Integrated Fairey overdrive in it. The only Fairey overdrives I had seen prior to this were the type that was used in landrovers, the type that the separate Fairey overdrive unit bolted onto the back of the Landcruiser transfer case and after changing some drive components drove from there off the gearbox output shaft. What I would like to do is this: Take the existing transfer case from the 5 speed box on my HJ60 and swap it for the transfer case I just got with the FJ60 4 speed gearbox that's got the Fairey overdrive built into the transfer case. WILL that transfer case with integrated Fairey Overdrive from the 4 speed gear box go onto my 5 speed gearbox? if so, is there anything special that will need to be done? What needs to be changed/modified if anything? Anything else I need to know? Thanks Kymbo

Gday everyone. I have a question about the Fairey Overdrive units that were fitted to the 60 series Landcruisers, also previous model Landcruisers of co****. I am told that that fairey Overdrive unit that was used is exactly the same as the unit as used in all the Landrovers, well the info I got was "same used right through to 1985ish". Now the research I have done tells me this is right, but I cant get a definative answer. Why Im asking is that there is a stronger version of an overdrive now available, Global Roamer Overdrive, formerly 'Roverdrive'. This unit is acclaimed to be 28% overdrive, far better, quieter and stronger than the older fairey units. I cant get an answer from GRO because they refuse to answer if it will fit a Landcruiser as "we dont deal with them, just Landrover vehicles". One would think they would investigate to add another good strong market to their product line. Thank you in advance for any responses. Kymbo.

Yeah I hear ya Mark. I used to rebuild engines and build the occasional racing engine so I know the internals and how they work very well. The only reason I didnt do my 2H was I now have a severe back injury and just cant do the heavy stuff. My engine has amazing oil pressure and It's been running without any other issues since begining of '07. It could just be a bit of gasket sealer (if they used any) that has blocked that particular oil outlet, Im not sure but this following week I will be going in to speak with the boss of that place and if I get no joy will speak with professional mechanics about the problem and then take it back to that boss, if no joy then I will be contacting Consumer Affairs with the info, and if the consensis says that the engine builder did it wrong I'll push for a tear down and repair at their expense. I'll keep ya's informed. Cheer's kymbo

G'day. Well I am back and with a solution of sorts. Sorry it's been a while, yes the oil is pumped up under pressure I finaly discovered, but for some reason not on my engine, my next fight here is with City Dismantlers of Gepps Cross Adelaide, they did the entire engine full recondition in late '06 and Ive replaced now 4 alternators in that time due to same reasons, the vacuum pump has died. The original went south 7 months after I had the engine done, replaced with a "new" 1 from City Dis, 10 months after in Mt Isa that died, City Dis wouldnt send a new unit without my reciept even though I had spent a huge amount of $s there, and I spoke with the salesman that dealt with my engine recond, big argument there. Anyway, I got an alternator (new) in Isa and that is the 1 thats just died, same fault so there is a big pattern here and Ive had the oil lines off and no oil comes out when the engine is running, so there are issues there for sure. To get around this an oil feed has been taken from an oil cooler line using a "T" piece, that feeds oil under pressure to the alternator and all is good again. So, soon it is off to City Dismantlers of Gepps Cross Adelaide to ask them some serious questions. Needless to say, I do not deal with them anymore since they screwed me with the needing my reciept etc when their alternator died in Mt Isa. I'll post their response on here if and when I get one. Cheer's and thanks for all the input. Kymbo

Just a quick update.. I called around, Toyota dealership, diesel engine business and Im still in the dark about how the oil reaches the vacuum pump, the gregories book is useless, gives info on rebuilding but no explaination. The Toyota place (very popular here) couldnt tell me, they said they cant even recall anyone ever having a problem with one so they couldnt really tell me, but, they will try to find out. The diesel engine place, again, very good reputation, 1 guy said it was drawn up from vacuum, he said its a vane pump (which I knew) and that it actually pumps oil up into and out of the pump, another guy there said no, its pumped up from engine oil pressure, when I hung up from them they were "discussing" the issue between themselves. Please... , does anyone have the definate answer, with proof or explaination that is proof posative, I dont want to destroy another alternator/vacuum pump. If it is pumped up there from engine oil pressure, world war III will start with the place that rebuilt the engine.. , as I said, I have superb engine oil pressure, it's just not pushing out the hole in the block where the oil feed to the alternator/vacuum pump feed comes from.. Im not loosing my hair....YET...

Cheer's mate, no probs with how you got the info. I did get somewhere today though, this may be good for anyone else that reads this that needs to know the same thing. The alternator I picked up today did have the original oil lines on them and I now know what oil line goes where. The oil feed into the alternator (conects to the cast alloy alternator housing) comes from the small connector on the engine block, as I thought it would be, it made sense. I'll be looking tomorrow at mine to check if the auto sparky did it the right way. Re the having to add a vacuum pump on the japanese comercials. The vacuum pump on diesels is very common as you can not take vacuum off the engine inlet manifold as you can with petrol motors, this is standard with all diesels, either a vacuum pump is on the alternator, or a seperate vacuum pump is driven by the fan belt or bolts onto the engine and is cam driven like a fuel pump, or a lot now are electric vacuum pumps (which I looked into as an option). Anyway, now all I need to work out or find out is, is the oil brought to the vacuum pump from the vacuum created in the pump, not under pressure from the engine, drawn into the alternator, then into vacuum pump and then expeled with air back into the engine, or is it forced in from engine oil pressure and then expelled back to the engine from the base of the vacuum pump. Cheer's anyway, again, thanks for your input. Kymbo

G'day everyone, Kymbo here from South Australia. Im 50 sumthin', My "rig" (for want of a better term) consists of a 1984 Toyota Landcruiser (nicknamed "Stompy" by my Daughter and it stuck), intercooled turbo diesel 2H (yep, it's a 2H, it wont get me there fast, but it will get me there), 5 speed manual, A/C, fully fitted out with the usual bull bar, roof rack, dual batteries, dual fuel tanks (which combined hold 200 litres of diesel), dual spare wheels on a custom wheelrack designed by myself, dual snorkles (yep a Landcruiser with dual Safari Snorkles), dual cup holders..hhmmm, maybe Ive got an obsession with 2 of's..lol, Boss air bags (rear) will adjustable from inside when I get the switches etc installed, spotlights, winch. I've fitted a drawer system in the back stocked with the needs for instant camping, food, water, fridge, stove etc. CD/radio, Uniden UHF, Garmin GPS, Reversing camera integrated with the caravan when its in tow and I have the luxury of a suspension seat also. Personaly, I have a back injury which slows me down considerably and at times even brings me to a halt for a few days at a time, but generaly its dealt with with medication. I still love to just get out there in the great Aussie bush, outback, rivers, lakes and beaches, its just tooo good. Anyway, cheer's everyone, Kymbo B)

Cheer's Mark. Thanks for the reply, I really do appreciate it and any more also.. It is clear that it ran dry..lol, I was horrified when I opened it and saw the inside of the vac pump. When the auto electrician fitted the new alternator he told me he also fitted new rubber hoses to the oil supply line fittings that connect both to the alternator (oil feed in) and engine block ins and outs, as the drain back just pushes on and is hose clamped. I am going to remove both today and check they havent started to come appart inside, I know this can and does happen, especialy if he used the wrong type of hose for it. What I really need to know is this. What connection from the engine block feeds the oil to the alternator, if anyone can tell me I would be really appreciative of the info, as I said, one conection at the engine block has a large fitting and the other a small fitting, logic tells me that the large fitting would be drain back from the vac pump to the engine, and I have this thought that maybe the auto sparky has got them on the wrong way as he told me they were both removed and had new rubber hoses fitted, I am sure there would be a right way and wrong way. I had a mate here and after the vacuum pump had been removed I told him to watch the both oil lines and tell me what oil line if any had oil comming out when I start the engine. There wasnt any but I am going to repeat that with the oil feed lines off the engine all together, not a lot of oil will be lost as my mate will yell the moment he see's a flow from either point, and I guess if no-one can give me an idea of what conection is the outlet and what one is back in the engine I guess Ill find out then..lmao. I again also spoke with a bloke lastnight and he reassures me that the oil is brought to the vacuum pump through the vacuum created in the pump, not under pressure from the engine, drawn into the alternator, then into vacuum pump and then expeled with air back into the engine. I need to really get this right as I am replacing the entire alternator today and I dont want to make any mistakes with lubrication hook ups. Im not saying the bloke I spoke with is right or wrong at this point, but at the moment its evenly ballanced, drawn up from vacuum or fed up under engine oil pressure.. ...... :D I again wait in anticipation for even more goood info, and again, Mark, thanks so much for your input so far. Cheer's Kymbo B)

G'day everyone. I have a landcruiser, HJ60, 2H diesel, 5 speed, great vehicle. A couple years ago while traveling around I needed to have the alternator replaced with a newbie, all great. These alternators if you weren't aware of have a vacuum pump mounted at the back thats driven by the alternator shaft. Well out of the blue the vacuum pump started to fail and within no time I had nil vacuum for brakes/clutch. The pump was removed from the alternator and I discovered to my shock it was as dry as the preverbial, when it should have had oil in it as its fed by an oil line from the motor and then a drain at the bottom lets oil drain back to the motor. What I need to know is this. Does the oil draw up the oil line by vacuum from the pump, ie oil is sucked up to the vacuum pump as a result of the vacuum inside it therefor lubricating it. This is the version I have always been led to believe! Or is it fed under pressure from the motor and then drained back to the motor once it reaches the bottom of the vacuum pump. This oil feed comes into the alternator housing and then into the vacuum pump, I believe it lubes the rear bearing of the alternator also. My motor was rebuilt in "06 and runs great, never gets hot, great oil pressure even at idle, this being so, I am even more willing to believe what I have always believed which is that the vacuum created in the pump for the brakes/clutch sucks oil up to the vacuum pump also and lubes it. Next question, the 2 oil lines that come from the motor to the back of the alternator/vac pump, is there a right way and wrong way to connect them, maybe the electrician that installed the alternator hooked the oil lines up wrong. 1 oil line comes from a larger trunion conection off the engine block and the other comes from a smaller trunion conection from the engine block. Does anyone know, or maybe you could have a look at yours if you have one, which oil line should go into the alternator housing and which one comes from the base of the vacuum pump. Thanks heaps in advance for anyone who can let me know any parts of what I need to know. Cheer's Kymbo B)