That may be the case with Piggyback Setups. With stand lone ECU's you are not restricted by having to use the stock ECU so changing the lift point has real advantages, NA your looking aroudn the 5750rpm mark. Not that easy, VTEC stuff just dosent work with VVTI/L Northy, My tunes not finished yet. Piggy back or not.. your still using the same hardware... and figuring out how to make power from Both cams takes time. Ideally youd set the lift point to 7500 rpm... tune the tits outta the low cam, then set the lift point to 4000 rpm.... then tune the High Cam... then lay the dyno graphs over each other and where they interesect, will be the Optimum lift point.... which i will be able to show you in Mid feb sometime when i am back on the dyno. Yep been there, done that.