gravityfreak

I must admit it is hard to differentiate power gains from noise gains. When the car sounds faster it somehow feels faster too. What I can say for 100% sure is that I have quite abit more torque with my CAI and CES. I drive a 1 hour strentch of freeway from Sydney to the central coast about once every week or two and know it well. Before the mods I would have to change from 6th to 5th on at least three hills. Since adding the mods I can happily stay in 6th the whole way. I even took the CES off for a month and noticed I was back to changing down. Another thing that changes SIGNIFICANTLY in my car with the mods is throttle response. In an underground parking - I can tap the pedal and my tyres will chirp immediately on the slippery concrete surface. Without the mods, the delayed throttle response meant the power would wind up more slowly and prevent the chirping. Finally - and again there is no question here - on some road surfaces when I hit lift in 2nd gear - my tyres will chirp (just from hitting lift). That NEVER happened before the mods on my car and is indicative of torque gains.

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May have to give Monday a miss just cause it's double demirrits this weekend and the temptation for mischief may be too great to resist. Will check out the dyno day but where the hell is giraween?

ToyMods had a Dyno day coming up in July I think but if can get a corolla one organised I'd rather do that :) :D If you come along to the cruise on Monday a few of us could work something out there :P - insert quick plug of event here - ← What car is the ToyMods one for? Is the cruise this Monday (13th) ?

I'd be up for this . Anyone else keen and have any ideas of where we could hold it?

Jim Berry all the way !!! I love Jim Berry and I love his clutches even more. Who's Jim Berry Sads?

I have King Lows and Koni adjustables = excellent result and not too $$$$. Lowering your car with the same shocks does not mean it will neccesarily wear your standard shocks out. However, most after market springs used when lowering are anywhere from 25% + stiffer than stock. It is this that will cause your shocks premature wear. If you can find short springs with identical rates to your standard ones, your car will ride lower in the shocks stroke but the dampening required will not change. Worse than wear, the handling will be poor - even dangerous. Non adjustable shocks have their internal dampening circuits matched to the spring rate of the vehicle. Up the spring rate and the shock cannot cope with the added force required to controll shock rebound. Before putting on the Konis, I ran the Kings on their own with the stock shocks - the result was bad performance and if pushed in a chopped out corner - dangerous. My advice is that to do springs without shocks is a waste of money and while it may appeal as far as looks go, will a) mean you will pay for labour twice when you end up replacing the shocks anyway and B) affect your performance badly. Save your money till you can do a propper job. Bang for $$ - Koni adjustables and King Lows are hard to beat.

Wei Wei - you are right one the money. I am delighted with the system finally. I shared my experience in what I believe was a ballanced and informative way. Whaqt people take from that is entirely up to them. I feel that we all have a responsibility to keep this forum as free as possible of biased and blatantly promotional rating of equipment. Hence my finding it both strange and unnacceptable that Silver was so one-sided and defensive about this product and so completely unwilling to even entertain the notion that product is anything less than brilliant. This one-sided presentation of opinion to me begs the question: What's in it for him?

No he didn't fit it. Don't you think that if he cannot guarantee gains unless he fits it, and he is unable to fit it, he should not sell it?

The following comments are particularly aimed at Silverbullit who'se unending praise for the the CES system and refusal to accept criticism is suspicious: The exhaust drones. The degree to which this bothers you is subjective but the fact that it does is not. Danthuyer himself admits that it drones. While not impossible, I have yet to hear a car with a free flow system that does not drone. What I take exception to is your telling people it doesn't. It does. This is not a criticism of the CES system, just a fact. Power a noise go hand in hand. You state that you car gained 9kw. Well done, I am delighted for you. But, you make out that that is the norm for the gains for this system. It is not. Everyone besides you has gained onoly 5-6kw besides myself who gained one untill I fitted the CAI. If I dyno'd now I have no doubt the pipe would contribute a further 4-5kw. The dyno which my car was dynod on reads higher than a roller dyno which I accept. Regardless of whether you accept the baseline reading or not - it is consistant and for measuring gains - that is what counts. This dyno is used by a tuner who specialises in Supercharging BMW M5's, tuning M3's and does a lot of work in Sydney for Porsche. The dyno is a chasis dyno and is less than 3 years old. So to assume that this dyno is innaccurate is rediculous. You put your faith in an old Bosch dyno in a exhaust pipe shop. As a measurement tool for measuring gains, the dynapak chasis dyno works. It reflected a gain of 1kw with the CES system. Regardless of the results of the dyno as described above - I didn't need a dyno test to tell me that it made no difference (before the fitment of the CAI). The car felt no better - in fact it felt worse. I know my car well enough to not require a dyno to tell me if something has improved performance or not. With fitment issues sorted and having got used to the drone, I am finally delighted with the end result such that inspite have had a few good offers to buy it from me - I will be keeping it on the car. Lucio - sorry mate but I am enjoying it. WIll let you know when if it is up for sale again. Finally, I feel that this forum shoud be one where products are tried, tested and rated honestly for the benefit of all members. I take exception to anyone pushing a product and stating attributes which are not true or replicated consistantly.

My front windows don't rattle but the rear ones rattle badly - so much so that I seldom open them. I asked the w*nkers at my dealership to fix it and like just about everything I ask them to do - they said they had but they hadn't.

My CES Exhaust story. For those of you considering a sports exhaust, you may find this interesting or at least of some help. About six months ago I ordered a CES system for my ‘stivo. Having done the suspension it was time for more power as I felt that the engine would respond well to a pipe. I own a Yamaha WR400F which is a high performance four stroke. When I saw how well my bike responded to a racing pipe – I figured our Yamaha made engine would have to respond well too. After positive reports from Silverbullet and Danthyer and claims of 6-10kw’s of gain – I was excited. I had ordered a TRD CAI but it had not yet arrived so when the CES arrived I slapped it on. I had dyno’d the car the week before so knew what the base power was. After the pipe was fitted I was expecting a lot. Boy was I disappointed. Firstly the noise: It does drone. But then power and noise go hand in hand generally speaking and I have yet to hear a free flow system that does not drone somewhat. Once you get used to it, it is not bad and the note it produces when revved is quite pleasing and encourages you to drive it hard – just to hear it scream. The power was the issue. A noticeable flat spot was felt at 5000 RPM and if anything the car felt the same or worse for it. At this point I called CES and let them know that I was unhappy as well as giving Silverbullet and Danth a hard time (well not really) for pushing it on the forum. The dyno I did a few days later confirmed a 1kw increase in power and he flat spot at 5ooo RPM. I was not a happy camper having dropped $900 on this pipe. About the only thing I was not ****** off about was the quality and workmanship which was / is fantastic. The bends are great and it looks the mutts nuts. Then my CAI arrived. As promised by all who have fitted one – it delivered. Immediately the car came to life adding gains in the midrange and bringing the hi cam lift to life. But still the flat spot persisted which really annoyed me. Then something strange happened. Over a period of about 2 weeks (by the way I did reset the ECU when I fitted the CAI and the pipe), the car started getting stronger and stronger. The flat spot disappeared and suddenly the car was pulling HARD in the midrange and EXPLODING in lift. On certain surfaces, the wheels would chirp in first and second gears – just from hitting lift!. I ended up taking it off a few months back and putting it up for sale because I couldn’t seem to get the resonator to stop rattling against the heat shield. The resonator is much bigger than standard and is a tight fit. Others have had this issue too. Combined with many long drives I was doing (highway drone at 110 km/ph ) I decided to take it off and see what the car was like with the stock pipe and CAI. The result is a much quieter drive but one which is far less exciting. Immediately I noted the loss in throttle response – big difference. Power from 4-5000RPM suffered noticeably and lift was somewhat (but not too baldy) affected. I did enjoy the quiet though. But then I got bored. So a week ago I put my CES pipe back on and this time managed to sort out the rattles. My friend drove it on Saturday and remarked how big a difference it has made to the mid range and how much more torque it has. I am now happy! So what can you take from this little story: In MY experience (and that is not to say this is the same for everyone), the pipe without a CAI did not make any real difference. With the CAI how ever, it has brought the engine to life. The workmanship is top notch and the sound is acceptable. Pros: Great workmanship and understated looks Great mid range gains with CAI Good top end gains with CAI Acceptable noise for every day driving Nice exhaust note Inspires you to drive HARD. Cons: Resonator clearance is tight making rattles hard to resolve Small / no gains without CAI (in my experience) Drones at 3-3500 RMP (which is highway speed) LOUD in lift (attracts the attention P.S. – I have not Dyno’d the car with the Pipe and CAI together.

Yeah, but your odo will read 4.8% less than actual mileage, therefore resale should be higher... :) ← Isn't it the other way round i.e your millage will read higher than your car has actually done. Anyway, I want to keep the diameter of the wheel the same , just have more grip vie better rubber and or slightly wider tyres but don't want to change the rims (cause I like them). Cheers.

Thanks Pippy but that doesn't assist me much. Do you know what will fit ?

Hey all. I want to replace my tyres but keep my rims. Was wondering what my options are for replacing my tyres on my standard rims. Question: Can 205/55/R16s be fitted to our stock rims ?(their appears to be much greater choice in that size). Can those of you who have changed their tyres but kept their stock rims please let me know what you have gone with and give me some feedback on how good they are. Thanks, Gravitfreak.