Well u wont believe it, took off the cover to get to it, unscrewed reader to find no wires connected to it couldnt see the connector so I took off the lower piece of the dash under steering column and saw the box just showing on left side of column so I pulled it out and bugger me its another reader with a key taped into it u bewdy took the barrel out down to the locksmith he matched it the key i found and all good, so the locked must have stuffed up hes grabbed one from wreckers and done that little shifty good idea though u got me on the right direction cheers Brendon