Hi Jim,.. thanks for the advice , .. I have already been trying to sort this problem our with my local dealer who pestered me to purchase a car from them here in Victor Harbor South Australia, but after 4 weeks of them saying nothing I contacted Toyota in Melbourne who opened and gave me a case number, our local dealer is still to come up with a solution and in all fairness to them, it has now been about 6 weeks and we did have a Xmas break. They are going back to Toyota ( they said) to see if an additive may improve or stop the rattle, and that was a few days ago, so we will see what happens.. With regard to the CV joints, at about 15,000 Klm or so when ever we went around a roundabout or turned sharp right we had a clicking noise from the front end, after 2 trips to the local Toyota dealer here in VH they acknowledged that something was wrong, so the 3 road test they confirmed it was the left hand CV joint and agreed to replace it, and to there credit ( or Toyotas) they replaced both sides .. I was skeptical about the changing the joints as we were going on a trip the next week, so I took it to a mechanic mate of mine and we put it on the hoist and sure enough new CV's .. After the CV joint replacement ( probably about 5000 klms ?) we would drive around a corner and you could feel a very faint click or movement thru the steering wheel, which we reported to our local dealer, and they could not feel it,.. I persisted and after the 3rd visit found a new mechanic who was very keen and new what the problem was straight away .. apparently the Toyota Corollas had a recall on the intermediate shaft as the splines wear and slipped on another component, he said that Toyota used some of these intermediate shafts in the Camry's. So what did our local dealer do .. they said they would tighten everything up and it would be OK .. it was for a week and then came loose again. So after explaining to them that what if it came loose at 100 Klm per hour and my wife was driving? still only tightened it up. So once again back in touch with Toyota in Melbourne who within a few hours told the local Toyota Dealer here in Victor Harbor to recall our car and replace the intermediate shaft. The intermediate shaft was not picked up by my wife and would have gone unnoticed until too late if I did not drive the car, I thought it was one of the front brake calipers sticking and then releasing, it is a very slight ( for want of a better word) feeling and can easily go unnoticed until too late, but once you know it's there you can pick it every time the car corners or there is pressure on the steering.. Stephen