ok~ picked up the cooper s this morning, and just got home from work... cooper S has a much more balanced torque output, real power between 3500-6500 rpm, tho not as torquey, stock vs stock, cooper s will sure run a better time, but feels like its slower than a sportivo due to less torque and no LIFT boost... in a straight line, while both cars under 2krpm, both cars would equal, between 2-6k, the supercharger would get a fair bit infront... when the lift kicks in, the stivo might be a car length behind... handling... i gotta give it 5 stars to da Cooper S... i wouldnt have the balls to run 150km on a non-perfect road with the stivo *stock, with 17" rims, with sumitomo htrz2*, but i did it on the mini tonight and could be pushed further... runnning dunlop SP sports 9000 on all four corners... really amazed me how well it gripped and how fine the suspensions were tuned i've had some issue with the stivo gear box, redline on first and second gear, occasionally wont be able to upshift, seems like there is something blocking the gear from engaging... happened to my 04 stivo bfore, also to my friend's 05 stivo. and we both got our gear box adjusted from toyota recall