Found a ford forum talking about Klugers and how MUCH better the territory was, just had to laugh. http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11253802 To start with, I quite like the territory, I have driven them many times and they have a lot going for them: looks good, tows well, is a nice size family car, a proven proformer, but........ IMO the kluger has: much better 4wd capablities (in the awd), more internal room, much more power (not counting the turbo), much better fuel eccon (especially counting the turbo), much, much, much better safty features, I think it tows better (IMO), is much faster (thanks rice racing), I consider its handling is better, better level of build and finish (but mines a grande) and to my mind is a better car to drive. These are the things that lead me to buy a Kluger over a Ford Territory. Oh, and they laughed about the Wheels driver who put a Kluger on its side and I'll say again; you drive poorly/badly this sort of thing will happen. He actually used the same method stunt drivers use for roll overs in movies. Just my two cents worth