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Well, number 3 arrived so a "normal" car won't do anymore. Picked up this very tidy Estima S Package van recently.. We decided to go for the pilot seat middle row so the kids could get through to the back set without having to worry about flipping the seat forward. Also gives us the ability to fold away the 3rd row and use the middle as recliners on long trips without the kids (unlikely to happen! :) ) Twin electric doors Auto park feature AFS lights (change direction with steering?) Panoramic Sound System (with rear monitor) Factory 18" wheels Just picked up a full english manual for it from the JPNZ site, $50 well spent.