master_scott69

my opinion only , i respect what everyone else has said , my beliefs are that the general motorist or "car buyer" will read the manual and follow the guidelines set out by the manufacturer. Things like 15k service intervals are an excellent way to eventually see an engine or part of it fail and thus force the consumer to spend money to repair or "it's broken we must get a new one" type of action. My dad's got a 2000 econovan and the dealer told him 20k intervals were fine as it was a light commercial vehicle and that meant for some ungodly reason it could last forever on oil and filters. it's been looked after and serviced every 10k , kept extremely well yet it still has issues that it really should not have.

Now i have in a couple of motors and as per the guidelines in my owners manual i was to drive the car 1000km's at no more than 100km/h and rev the motor no harder than 4k. i did this accordingly , took it in and had the head bolts re tensioned and after 3k was able to drive it under any condition / circumstance etc. Now not owning a modern modern car i would have to assume times have changed and many things they used to do are no longer. I service my cars every 5k at maximum , oil , filter plugs every 10 depending on the type of course and other elements. I drove this motor resonably hard so i serviced it accordingly , usually the time frame of 3 months was out before 5ks were reached but usually 3ks was the interval i used and in that i never saw any issues and always had nice clean oil and a fantastic running motor etc.

As far as actually thrashing the car , i don;t like "thrashing" cars , i like driving with spirit which i think is totally different , you must still consider things like your clutch , box and where your revving the motor to , i hate people who sit cars on the rev limiter , thats obviously not doing the engine any favors, but in turn revving it high and knowing how to smoothly and efficiently change gears and get the most out of what you have is the best way to have it.

i have always followed very simple rules , cold start , drive like someones pushing you down the street in winter with your underpants on and it's cold , get to running temp and your right to at least not to damage to cold engine components etc.

hopefully this bible makes sense and i would like to say a little more but my missus is clenching her fists

I agree with eviltwin. Taking it easy when the car is cold is quite important. I quizzed the dealer about a noisy idle in my AT-X. He told me it's normal for the Aurion because the tolerances are so close in the engine parts. He said it takes a little while for the engine to loosen up and the oil to spread around inside the engine. It would stand to reason, then, that it wouldn't be a good idea to go revving the tts off your cold Aurion.

Getting back to the keys......

I bought, second hand from a Toyota Dealer, an AT-X last November and only recieved one [master] key and one remote.

If Aurions are supposed to be delivered with two complete sets (remotes and keys) and one valet key, what rights do I have to return to the dealer and request the other keys be supplied to me?

The Dealer was Cardiff Toyota.

in short-none matee as it was sold 2nd hand to you,the dealer more than likely was only given the 1 key,the previous owner more than likely has them,if you have his name you could try to track him down or ask the dealer for more details

...makes you wonder if the dealer keeps the keys just so I have to cough up $300+ if I want a spare set.......

Getting back to the keys......

I bought, second hand from a Toyota Dealer, an AT-X last November and only recieved one [master] key and one remote.

If Aurions are supposed to be delivered with two complete sets (remotes and keys) and one valet key, what rights do I have to return to the dealer and request the other keys be supplied to me?

The Dealer was Cardiff Toyota.