max002

...dude <_<

TO: Max002 & TOCA Populus

A sportivo can go 14s - i've seen it. And there is still some tuning potential there as well. So i don't understand why you need to go down this direction.

This forum is used to discuss how things can be improved, solutions to problems and general discussions etc. - how is this thread meant to accumulate 'productive' discussion?

The Sportivo (from my perspective) is used as a cross over vehicle for the market of people that want a car that is (in no particular order):

1. Economical

2. Low Maintenance

3. Reliable

4. Performance Worthy (weekend twisties, track etc.etc.)

5. Comfortable Daily Driver

6. Minimal Hassle from Cops

* I have a 1zz, so all of the above minus point 4 & 3 (made in SA) - i'm still working on that one

Things learnt:

- is there a visible strike/voting system in place to temporarily/permanently ban these people from posting replies - where all forum members have the ability to cast votes? In this particular case, this idea would be worth while...has there been ANY constructive comments discussed in Max002's threads/posts?

*always willing to load bullets for BigBum, M&M, N, E & SB

I know it can do 14's but with a lot of engine work or Forced Induction

read it properly.

Im know that i probably wont get thru to you guys becuase all of ya's have been living fiction from the beggining but its worth a try.

Anyway which clueless person can tell me how much power the rockjobtivo gains from an ecu?

Sorry but the sportivo engine is actually maxed out so all them times here are a load of BS!

Thats what happens when you buy a toyota and try to make it out to be a performance car.

So unless you do cams or forced induction you dont get any gains.

So you guys with 1zz's are better off modifying that.

Sorry to dissapoint you guys.

Dont worry theres plenty of performance cars out there. :P

I think i will im just dont have time and anyway my girl friends drives it most of the time so no rush but very soon.

Beating a gen3

Thats the funnist thing ive ever heard

A cliosport will **** on you guys and ive beat them.

All you guys just cant handle the truth.

Sportivo is only good on paper

typical toyota

You guys need to wake up to reality

its only a corolla what are you expecting.

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it's only a mazda, wat are YOU expecting.

are u saying your SP23 "powerhouse" should kick the RX8 as well, coz of all the torque u have?

u need to wake up to reality, too. there are different types of drivers, different cars for different purposes.

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Are you saying thisa corolla can keep with a rx8

And also ive told what im expecting Sp23 is a little bit quicker than a sportivo

but slower than a Clio Sport/GTI 180

if you do you have no idea

If max has a Stivo and lost to a normal Mazda 3 he needs to call a driving instructor ASAP and learn how to drive a Manual. I sorta raced one last night and my *** it was SOOOOO easy.

But most likely he is a SP23 owner troll who has never driven or raced a stivo:)

And if a sportivo is just a corolla then a SP23 is just a Mazda 323. Honestly whats the big difference!!??

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Ok guys whats harder to drive a a 4cyl with no torque or a SS commodore GEN III

which is my daily driver.

You guys need to wake up to reality

its only a corolla what are you expecting.

Well I finally got approval for the 'Stivo.  :D

Still, it will be another week or so before I get my hands on the vehicle  :(

Final price was under 28K including options, dealer delivery and all the other associated crap.

Just waiting for the paperwork to be processed & the car delivered & optioned out, then handover  :D

Can't wait to drive the bloody thing, but it will still be a couple of months before I can give it a good working over  B)

Can you tell I'm excited 

cheers

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Mate your making a mistake

ok then let me at them hahaha

ill race them and beat them cus i already have

besides who cares what the magazines say

almost everyone on this forum has raced and beaten an SP23 before who drives a stivo

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What about all the people with an sp23 who have beat Sportivo dont they count.

Ive experienced it myself.

Get this ive even raced the Mazda 3 Maxx Sport and its like this from the start the mazda takes off in front about a car thanks to the torque upto 100km/h the sportivo catches it and then yeah the corolla starts to pull away.

Thats the result of NO TORQUE

Against a car with only 104kW thats embarassing to say i have 141kw.

We did the run twice to then the guy turned off.

easily its quicker

ive raced a couple in my nugget sportivo

havent you read what all the magazines say

NO TORQUE

is the thread about insurance or which car to buy

read before you write (if u can)

Sp23 is the way to go

looks better, handles better, goes better, better quality,

wont have any problems.