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Think toyota are pretty good, all cars get issues. Kluger has never broken down or not started yet. Atleast they do recalls, better than other brands that ignore or keep problems hush. Though one issue that does drive me nuts is the cold weather dash rattles. Heard they have to remove entire dash to fix!! Did they fix your dash rattles under recall??? My dash now sounds like an oversized babies rattle soon as winter hits. No dramas all summer, but as soon as cold weather comes drives you nuts, and bit embarrassing when someone else in the car! I've been off this forum for 1.5yrs and I had the rattles mentioned in the dash and the car(Aug07 build). The car went back to the dealer several times and had the dash totally off twice during the cold winter of 2008. It was not related to the dash as it was finally found within the plastic trim on the outside near the wiper that stretches from one side of the car to the other. The Toyota dealer who were great, noted it on the intra Toyota web for other dealers to read the findings. There are posts from that time in detail referring to it in this forum. Same problem found on my Hilux I have now. I put a kitchen knife in between the windscreen and the trim and slowly moved across the window whilst injecting silicone into it. Wipe clean and then left large cans of two fruit or sphagetti, over it as a weight over night. Next day onwards, no more rattles. Had the same tear too in the mat.

NewKluger, Well, reckon you should have the AWD beast by now. Great stuff the AWD and I'd bet your now glad you went that path. Enjoy the Beast.

When I sold the Beast I found the 2 Wds were around in plentiful numbers and no so much the AWD due to inital cost justifications. My dealer sold my Kluger within 8 working days. I found the safety in the wet was just totally amazing, the AWD just would not slide in roundabouts or hard accelaration from rest in the wet. Together with no steering torque feedback.The 2wd Kluger back in late 2007 I test drive was very strong in steering torque. It almost did an "Aunty Jack" accelerating in a 90deg turn from rest. I really only miss the beast for launching my boat of firm earth sides at my local Hume Weir. Now I must launch at the concrete ramps and park the rig in a suitable place for 2Wds. Before I would just leave the kluger/traileron the sand or earth right near the waters edge. Plus I have to now make conversation at the concrete ramp with others. The Kluger in fuel econo is right up there with the Ve Berlina and I would say better when towing than the Ve. Must say, its nice again to a have a choice of digital speedo, a bluetooth that works properly, a hand brake that not only holds the car, but boat as well and a better stereo dash setup and sound. Along with a car that you can chuck around more easily. But she ain't no Kuger and never will be. Also when at the traffic lights and a Kluger is beside me, they seem so big and high compared to the Ve - Go Kart. Thats when I miss it as well. I thinking of giving the Berlina to my wife and giving her car to my second oldest daughter who is approching 18 and buying a 2003 -2005 diesel twin cab or super cab just for boat launchings. I still monitor the Kluger forum and love the Kluger beasts you guys/gals drive.

Guys, Quite a few pages back now (2008)my then dash rattle problems and the fix is covered. In short after a dash removal and other work done. It ended up originating from the outside of the windscreen under that black plastic full width cover around the wiper arms. My local Wodonga Toyota dealer logged the fix on the Toyota portal for other dealers to read up. As it took many visits to the workshop until it was found. It was worse upon frosty winter mornings. The dealer never let up in there search to find it. Garry

This was my solution, but if they want it they will get it. When I worked at Lavington NSW, I was using a high tensil bolt that had rusted the bolt and nut a little under tightening tension.(on a commodore at the time) That saved my square tow tung at the time from being knocked off. The bolt set up was the same as picture on the Kluger. The b**t**d's had hacked sawed through the bolt in there endevours to steal it all whilst in a public high vis carpark.

:o Yes, I did it, but my wife was against the selling initially. I don't use it for off road much at all and I don't use the 2nd row seats or the third row. So its a lot of beast to have around in dollar terms. I can tell all you guys one thing, IT HOLDS IT VALUE BIG TIME. But the key was AWD and the third row seats and still in show room condition. It was a novated lease car, but I was the original registered person it was registered under. I paid out the residual two weeks back to take owner ship. I got more for it than what I paid to own it by a fair 0,000 margin and the trade in price was only a few hundred $$'s lower than the original Fleet purchase price. I will still be visiting this forum and still have a keen interest for Klugers. I will now be driving a leather interior VE Berlina with 40,000ks on it and I have enough change to buy my wife a new Yaris if we decide on a Yaris. The maths add up, but I will miss the Klugers solid ride and presence about the whole vehicle.

Mine was replaced today with the rubber upgrade only, dealer would not budge. So I will ask for it to checked in every service moving forward. Oral requests are typed into my service invoice as work completed. So that will be kept as a record.

NO, it's not a thing of the past. My local Toyota dealer put a full tank of fuel in on delivery of my Kluger, let alone a great price. Also a year and a bit later I bought a used Hyundai for $9500 drive away for my daughter from the same dealer and got a full tank again. Also my daughter thought the CD unit was not up to scratch and got a new Kenwood remote unit fitted within 48 hrs, no questions asked. Nor did they test the unit to verify my daughters claims. Lessor dealers may have said the head unit is not under warranty me thinks. Together with other good points to praise along the journey from this dealer. They are Jacobs Toyota Wodonga. I've zero affilation with them in anyway, just appreciate good service which I never got over many years wiith my many new RTS cars.

I could not get Dunlop ST's, be it ST 20 or 30 to replace the originals due to no stock. Three weeks back I got Dunlop AT3 being 60% road and 40% dirt mix, Thats my own % mixes at my best guess. $330 per tyre. Real happy I got them now for boat ramp use that I do and launching my boat of the sides of the Hume Weir. There got heaps more tread depth than the road tyres and yes theres a slight increase in road noise. But it's only slight and at 100ks to 110ks I don't think there any noiser than the OEM. But noiser at 70 ks or 80ks I believe. Also they felt different behind the wheel being a flatter tyre at the road contact point. But 20 ks later and one gets used to it. They also pick up and hold small 3mm road grit and whilst you don't here it in the cabin. Bestanders may here the click click rotation noise, but thats not my problem as its not heard inside. Check the speed of the vehicle and the error margin is roughly the same as to when I had the road tyres on.

RR, Could you post a picture showing what we are looking for. I've got a rough idea, but a picture may help us all to ensure we get the metal pipe. Thanks, Garry

I haven't received the letter yet and may not due to buying out my Novated lease on the beast two days ago. So the letter may have gone to the the previous fleet mgrs. So Thanks to 57fritz for the heads up. Booked my Gen 2 Aug 07 build in today for next Wednesday. Was told the parts need to be ordered and initially there are limited allocated parts within the Toyota system at the moment to capture the first round of customers. Also they were perferring to capture clients in there next service, which is fair enough. My 40,000 k service was done two weeks prior to the recall. Edit: 12.44 Letter in today's mail

DoB, I guess firstly HB for yesterday, Good report there and certainly interestly info on the market and the demand for a Kluger. I've been tossing up the idea loosely, of selling my 38,000k KX- R 7s AWD. As I've just threw away a highly paid job due to the excessive working hrs expected every day that I've put up with for over 30yrs. But, I just can't come to terms with parting company with it due to the fantastic ability it has to launch my boat on inland Weir banks without the need to use a concrete ramp. Along with fact its just a magic lovable beast. So it may just stay as I love it as vehicle, especially now I just fitted All Terain tyres. Mine was a novated lease Kluger company vehicle I've driven since new, which I'm currently in the process at the moment of purchasing out the lease. The info you posted is an interesting read for myself. good to see you found a second Kluger.

I'm one of those guys who has created previous threads re the crappy Head unit Toyota put in. My solution was to sell of my new 6720 and just get another 6120C that I have put away for when my current 2yr old 6120 stops working. This way I know it will auto connect each time. Even if the receiver get a hollow sounding reception, which I believe is the headunits fault. The person I sold it to has new Commodore wagon and it Auto connects fine. Wished I had never payed $850 for 6 stacker/bluetooth unit upgrade for KX-R, I only wanted the bluetooth capability. Its never been as good as the car for the whole 2 years I've had it. As we all know here on this forum.

Answering my own question for at another Nokia phone model, My wife fairly new Nokia E51 works fine. But she won't swap. Garry

Apart from the hollow/weaker voice the receiver experiences when using the bluetooth whilst driving. My Nokia 6120Classic used to connect and disconnet fine each time I jumped in the car. About once every six months I would re down load the phones software to keep it all going the way it mean't to. Last week I got a new Nokia 6720 with the 5 meg camera. Well it's totally pot luck if it will auto reconnnect each time I get in the car. 19 times out of 20 it has to manually reasigned. I've re loaded the lastest software to phone which was up to date in the first place approx 4 times. But it has not resolved the probem. Also it has been repeatedly reset to authorise it to connect automatically. IN SUMMARY the 6720 is Crap re my problem, otherwise it's fine. So my daughters have picked an otherwise nice phone for nicks. So in the Nokia range of late model phones who had success with what nokia phones. As my old/used 6120classic is a liitle worn and instead of buying another new nokia and hoping for the best. I may be better of just buying another 6120Classic as there quite cheap and will most likely work properly. EDIT, I have the 6 stacker/bluetooth gen toyota head upgrade. Thanks, Garry