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Totally agreed with you. 'well clearly the customers see value in the car other than VSC/TC' Saj You have to say this because your Corolla doesnt have VSC/TC :) Sure Corolla is a good car,cheap to run, have good resale value but I wouldnt buy one without VSC/TC for now.

Yes...actually it's only around 19000kms..I know..it's very tempting, I'm just worried about the gear box problems that a lot of s'tivo owners here had and the car is just out of warranty period. I can't afford to spend much money to fix it if something is wrong a long the way...I have to keep the car for the next 5 yrs as I was given direct order from the wife. Stuffed up with the Focus last time so I have been given one life left only :(

As I remember from my last few accidents, I always got hit from the driver's side, so side and curtain airbags would be very helpul ...if...hell...don't want to think about it. The thing is that I love the S'portivo's power too :)...hmmm my heart goes for the S'tivo, my head wants the levin ZR but my guardian angel wants me to wait for the facedlift models with ESP & TCS :) Cheers CME-LFT

Thanks for the reply Tiet. I'm with you too. I think the 05 s'tivo round shape front fog light look very ugly compare to the 03's ovel shape,which matches better to the car headlight and nose. Otherwise I haven't noticed any differences, tail lights??? Regarding to the Levin ZR current model, it has 7 airbags,plus new car warranty,all other extras, doesn't look that bad..etc..except performance.The S'tivo is very good looking,big power for such a small car, but minus by safety only two front airbags and built in SA, my LS focus built in SA and had problems from very first day I bought it,lucky me I got rid of it now...hmmm.. Hard choice..

Hi all, first post here :) I'm in the market for a small car for few months now, really want to have a corolla but it doesn't have ESP & TCS with the current models. I've been told that these features will available last Sep or so...and it's Oct now,hmmm still nothing..anyway should I wait or getting one of these: 2005 Sportivo with toyota alarm, 21Km for around $20000-$21000 2007 Levin ZR manual, demo, 1500km for around $25000 Thanks very much.