thanks heaps wasen't sure if that was to expensive but i think the car is looking for a total overhaul as we bought it when it was at 95k and they said you should change the timming belt every 100k. a friend of mine quote something like $700 for everything that includes oil change, filter, etc (why am i asking you guys and not my friend well....... don't really trust him as i've been had in the past lol (why i still call him a friend i don't know) but thanks for the information i'll proable get the water pump changed as well