We ended up getting a 2012 kx-s fwd for 50k, was also offered 53.5 for an awd, but already hitting our price limit at 50. I did all my thorough research on the R model, so didn't see all the guys from a year ago saying they got base kx-s models for 47-48. We had the tow bar added in, but that's all. I think if you have the time and are wanting a popular highly stocked colour you could get a better price, but we wanted tidal blue and didn't want to wait to get it and are soon to be some happy kluger owners. Thanks for everyone putting there prices down it really cuts the bargaining bs down when you know what a reasonable price is before you start talking with the dealer. I also found it pretty easy once you have a figure in mind to just ring dealers and say can you give me this and this for the price you want to pay. If you say your willing to put a deposit down on the spot (when they ask) they will give you an offer. Best of luck to everyone trying to get a good price.