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Looks like I will have to reopen them again. Here is a problem (used JB Weld but it looks like I didnt use enough):

Also after washing a car I noticed that they fogging. Do I need to seal them better?

What happened there? seems like the shroud has fell of... I used JB Weld as well, works like a charm,

perhaps not enough was applied? I probably used too much of it when i did it...

Fogging, I get some minor fogging, but its not too significant, you may want to add more of those nissan seals.

Btw, i didn't use the oven, I used a heat-gun, found it more convenient, or you could prep it by letting it sunbake for a few while,

the glue then becomes soft and you can pry it out (carefully that is)

YURO> i believe the gen 5.5 stock bulbs are the same as 5.0 (both low beams are the H4 dual filament type). Gen 6 is H7 to my knowledge...

that's a really good effort, im very envious of what you've accomplished there... h.i.d retro fit AND blackened headlights in the one go, well done and top job!!

also, sorry but a noob quesiton, is the brightness and distance of light of the hid reduced because of the projector lense?

cheers

That Black-coating makes it look very cool! just like the sportivo models i believe?

Looking very cool, i thing i didn't do was retrofitting the indicators to LED or something, maybe you can do that in the future ...

Regarding your question, the projector lens, that's how stock HID are supposed to be lit, uses the projector to disperse the light correctly on the road,

forming a defined cutoff and wide spread of beam......so you don't any glare like headlights fitted with HID bulbs replacement kits.

JB Weld can be used to put the shrouds in place, not much is required as the shrouds are pretty light...

I got mine from Kmart a while back, not sure if they still have them, but such a great thing to use...

I think you've already used bolts/nuts for your projectors??

do you know what projector your oem lights use?

if they are valeo h7 projectors you can get d2s bulb adaptors to fit

I noe they are h7s... as for valeo or not, am not sure... d2s!? i'm officially confused.

so anywayz... mines an aug 06 camry (current shape).... the knowledgeable forum members might be able to tell me once and for all what type of stock projector head lights i got... please :(

This is a D2S Bulb (these are the bulbs used in OEM HID Projectors) - but because if your car is not intended for HID, it will use a different bulb such as H7/H1/H4 etc, so people have re-based them so you can fit them in as well.

If your headlight uses a H7 bulb, yes you can get those adaptors which makes a D2S bulb fit into a H7 Socket.

Other than the bulb, you will need a place to fit the ballast (one on each side), i placed mine below the headlights which requires taking the headlights out (see below)

2006 camry, is that gen 6? perhaps you can get away with using a halogen projector with a re-based HID Bulb. Not the best combination but would make the lights look a bit better.

Otherwise, just get some brand name halogen if you really want to upgrade the lights..

yeah gen 6... guess the easiest way is to get some white bulbs? any suggestions?

Well the thing is if you have a stock halogen projector, it may be okay to use a HID Kit instead. (without doing any major modification).

Although i've seen some people replacing their stock projectors (halogen type) with some proper HID projectors.

With regards to HID kits, most re-based ones will not be genuine OEM brands (philips, osram etc). But they should be okay.

Just got to find the right base for your car. I think its H7 for 2006 camry?

Alternatively, you ca just get some white halogen bulb eg Philips Diamond vision are quite good but pricey.

2006 camry, is that gen 6? perhaps you can get away with using a halogen projector with a re-based HID Bulb. Not the best combination but would make the lights look a bit better.

Otherwise, just get some brand name halogen if you really want to upgrade the lights..

Mate, you have the skill to make these, so you are OK. :) Me... no clue lol

Can you post up some shots of your HIDs at night? I want to see the cut off and how good they light up the road.

Thanks

Nah - mines nothing compared to the some at hidplanet. Mine's not fully perfect, but i couldn't be bothered fixing it up as it was sealed.

Attached some pics, they're not as good on the camera for some reason! The ones shown here are the s2k projectors.

The TSX ones aren't as wide in terms of output, but its still pretty good.

do halogen projectos use inferior materials to the HID projectors? Cause as modena said apperntly HID in halogen projector is "illegal"

Its less the quality issue, but the different lens.

A halogen projector has lens and its reflector bowl suited for a halogen bulb.

whereas a HID projector has lens/reflector suited for a HID Bulb.

In my opinion both types are .."illegal" like mine...even if you have a legit projector, it is not a part that comes standard for the car, plus there is no washer/leveling mechanism..

How much did your retro cost all up?

Here's some ball park figures

Spare set of headlights (aftermarket) 200, or 400 for genuine

HID Ballast (philips/hella/denso brand names) - $100-200

HID Bulb (philips or osram) - $100 per pair

Projectors:

my 1st projector (called TSX, comes from an accord euro) costs about $130

2nd set (called s2k, comes from an s2000) costs about $300

Shrouds/Bezel (optional):

These costs quite alot if you want superb one eg. BMW types (e46, used to be 90-100USD, now they are probably 150)

Its just a bit of reflective plastic. But you could probably get something else to cover the projectors. so this part is variable.

Misc: wires, relays, connectors, mounting materials, nuts/bolts etc... $20-30

and then there's the cutting/drilling work.

Cheers. So if you smash your headlights, you are up the **** creek right?

That is the main problem with retro fitting, if you damage them, its all back to square one again.

That is true - but if you have two sets of headlights,... it doesn't always have to be so bad...

do halogen projectos use inferior materials to the HID projectors? Cause as modena said apperntly HID in halogen projector is "illegal"

Its less the quality issue, but the different lens.

A halogen projector has lens and its reflector bowl suited for a halogen bulb.

whereas a HID projector has lens/reflector suited for a HID Bulb.

In my opinion both types are .."illegal" like mine...even if you have a legit projector, it is not a part that comes standard for the car, plus there is no washer/leveling mechanism..

How much did your retro cost all up?

Here's some ball park figures

Spare set of headlights (aftermarket) 200, or 400 for genuine

HID Ballast (philips/hella/denso brand names) - $100-200

HID Bulb (philips or osram) - $100 per pair

Projectors:

my 1st projector (called TSX, comes from an accord euro) costs about $130

2nd set (called s2k, comes from an s2000) costs about $300

Shrouds/Bezel (optional):

These costs quite alot if you want superb one eg. BMW types (e46, used to be 90-100USD, now they are probably 150)

Its just a bit of reflective plastic. But you could probably get something else to cover the projectors. so this part is variable.

Misc: wires, relays, connectors, mounting materials, nuts/bolts etc... $20-30

and then there's the cutting/drilling work.

do halogen projectos use inferior materials to the HID projectors? Cause as modena said apperntly HID in halogen projector is "illegal"

Its less the quality issue, but the different lens.

A halogen projector has lens and its reflector bowl suited for a halogen bulb.

whereas a HID projector has lens/reflector suited for a HID Bulb.

In my opinion both types are .."illegal" like mine...even if you have a legit projector, it is not a part that comes standard for the car, plus there is no washer/leveling mechanism..

Hi Guys,

Got a quetsion for you, maybe some of you have come across this. I notice initially that one of the lights behind the Heater / AC dials died (this was soon after my 3 year warranty expired). A little while after that, another of the lights blew. From what I can tell, it looks as though there were 4 lights running across. The first light that blew was the center left one, then the center right one. Now all 4 of them are not working, so I cannot see any of the controls in the dark.

Both the AC and Heater works fine. The Hazzard control light button and demister work fine.

Any ideas? I was thinking it was a fuse (is there a fuse that controlls these lights?), but that woudlnt make sense, because the whole lot would have stopped working.

I managed to remove all the dash (as I was removing my Pioneer HU and fitting the factory one back), and decided I would try and fix this problem, I found that the actual panel which holds the AC and Heater controls are "sealed", and tried to open up the cover (which was pretty difficult), but couldn't actually get to it...

From what I could tell, it looks as though they have used those lights which are soldered in, like small thin LED's, but I could be wrong...

Any help would be appriciated.... I really don't want to go to Toyota $ervice Department, because I can imagine how much they charge...

There are no other electrical problems with the car what so ever, so I'm not too sure what this could be.

The car is Toyota Camry Sportivo 04 model.

Thanks

Have any photos? What do the LEDs look like?

Or are they actual bulbs?

I have felt the AC panel before, and it feels too warm to be LEDs, so you might be in luck that you won't need to do any SMD LED Soldering..

Can someone do retro fit for my 07 Corolla?

I could help you.....but you're in melb....

I can guide you how to do it if you're willing :)

This is what I recommend, a relay-harness to ensure your stock wires don't go astray:

Here's a photo of the wiring diagram i used when I was doing the 1st retrofit

hi thx for the advice, but could you please upload the clear picture or diagram, coz i'm totally no idea which wire it is(interior center light),, i was try to wired cable from the door sills which is the red and the red black one to the button doors cable and the light doesn't came on,,

i'm totally definitely blank about car electrical but wont spend my bucks to the workshop to installed better try first by my self

thx mate

Ok when i get a chance, i'll take a photo.

Just hope that the wires are the same on the Gen6.

Do you have a multimeter? You can just get the harness behind the key insert and measure the voltage of each socket until you find one that gives you 12VDC when the door is open.

--camry 07

hi.. does anyone know how to wired the cable properly, so when the door open the light on the door sills came on??

I used the ring illumination wire, just find it from the connector. Alternatively, you can use the one that powers the interior center light.

some pics: (this is a gen5 though, but should be similar)

is it possible to wires up the h11(high beam) & h7(low beam) into a H4 socket without using any relays??

coz i saw 1 of the members car.. he actually had 4 relays... 2 relays on both sides...

cant i just tear out the wires of the h7 & h11 and solder it on the h4 socket??

need some help from eleccy experts~ :)

I reckon you only need 2 relays.

You can just do what you said, solder the wires from H7 and H11 to H4 socket, but the thing is, when you put your high beams on, the H7 will turn off, and you're left with the H11 as the only high beam.

whereas stock H4 will give you high beam in addition to the high beam bulb being on.

I actually have a way around this as I use it for my HID setup, uses two relays (+ a capacitor, only needed for HID system as without it, the setup flickers the HID for a split-second which is bad for HID ballasts), i'll see if I can dig out the files for it...or else, i'll have to find out how I did it back then................

would it be possible though to separate the layers of the cluster face and put a different colour in?

I have thought about doing this, but seeing as you have separated the cluster recently, is it possible?

ive got it apart atm and the plastic panel is one layer it cant be separated and i cant get the needles off so im not going to screw around with it anymore

not like the old days when all it was was a green condom over a light globe lol!

oh well ill have to find something else to fiddle with got some stainless steel downstairs might knock up a new engine cover lol!

maybe you can try different colours, see what colour you can come up with mixing with the red ..

I know the Gen5 in AUS uses H4 (not the Gen6 or the aurion)

The new yaris seems like a H4 too, Corolla i think its H7.

Yeah, you could just add some LEDS with some resistors :)

1) Void warranty

2) Original lens damaged from increased heat

3) Ballasts less resistant to moisture

4) Extremely high voltage

5) HID has a different light pattern than halogen and will create significant glare if installed into a halogen lens

6) Auto-levelling I have heard is a requirement for HID kits, as it is the edges of HID lights that create the glare.

6) Auto-levelling I have heard is a requirement for HID kits, as it is the edges of HID lights that create the glare.

This is a mandatory requirement under the regulations. Any manufacturer that does not have this will have to have all cars recalled.

As for why you shouldn't do it.

- You blind with the glare (don't say there is minimal because some glare is built into standard halogens to light overhead signage hence you see the cut off a little blurry) oncoming cars which increases the chance of them running into you or causing someone else to have an accident (and risk of killing them or yourself).

- You see less as the blue spectrum is the least sensitive to the human eye so you see no more than regular standard halogen

- You blind yourself in these wet weather as the blue reflects back to your eyes.

- You void your own insurance as the car is effectively unroadworthy

Other than the legality of this,

I personally belive people who want to use HID should opt for under 5000K. (or 4300K just like any standard OEM car, its more white than yellow, but as the bulb ages, it slowly turns white)

And also, at these colour temp. you get less blue which means you get more light on the road. Just my couple of cents..

well you guys should check if it has the same plugs.

I believe the rolla also uses the H7 as per the camry gen6? so it should be fine :)

Hi all,

I have a Presara and would like to protect the headlights against chips / cracks. I've heard someone say that with HID you can't (shouldn't) use any protectors. Has anyone else heard that and can explain why? Alternatively I've seen some plastic rubbery adhesive film that can be trimmed to size and placed over the lens providing protection while being fairly invisible. Anyone have any experience with that?

Thanks.

Just logically thinking, the protectors might disperse the HID light beam more resulting in some kind of glare or reflection.

Don't quote me on this, but this is what i think

yerp, well if your music thumping you cant hear anything!! not even the sirens of a fire truck!!

lol, now you've just revealed that you're one of those who turn on the music really loud

see, i listen to classical, so no matter how loud it is...i can still hear the indicators :P

I'm located in the Liverpool region of Sydney. Aren't the back lights actually LEDs as opposed to bulbs with filaments?

typically they are becoming more LEDs!

But sometimes you still see filament bulbs still, especially those "condom" looking ones (warm white colour with a coloured covering over it :P)

If you could take it out, i'm sure I can help you identify which bulbs it takes :)

Just out of interest, what kind of LED did you use?

can't really see clearly with that photo...

Nice job btw, but could have also used a LED strip or somethign similar.