Hi Guys Thanks for the suggestions! I've done a bit more searching and I think I've found a solution, dispensing with the suction cup ProClip make a 2 part mounting plate for GPS, PDA's and Mobile phones which is customised to a fitting to suit the vehicle - including Aurion Australia distributor is Kiosk Communication http://www.kioskcommunications.com.au/kiosk/default.asp who maket the US product under the name ClicOn You can see pics on their site with dash mounts to the centre console of the Aurion. This is exactly what I was looking for as it gets the GPS off the Windscreen, closer to the driver for for operating controls and is less of a security risk that seems to be a big problem. The mouting plate on the dash is not as obvious as a windscreen fitting. Also, when I use a windscreen shade (which could not be done with a suction cup fitting) it is almost hidden from outside view. Thought I would pass on this info for anyone else looking for a solution. I have ordered the products ($107.89 incl Postage) so will let how it looks after I fit it Mark