thanks a lot guys (and the prompt reply!). i'm counting on month end to give me a better price also. rez, Conquest 24k - manual or auto? btw, has anyone come across car brokers? Didn't even know they existed. Sounded good as last time had to spend 2 weekends going around 5 dealership to find the best price but then again, not sure if saving will ended up in commission for broker anyway...