Yeh, I think i'll be a spectator for this. Van might not be ready, and Nova might still need some tlc, haha Yeh, although I think for cruises, a stricter rule structure needs to be in place. Just something I learnt from my cruises and the weekend, it seems that although it is fun to drive hard with people, we were too close. But hey, we do, we learn, we try again. Still a great cruise, so cheers Andy for the efforts