Thanks for that, me thinks the Kind Low's may be the way to go... Also Danz, thanks for the input, I set up drag cars and track cars...and as I said in my post I do not wish to go down the swaybar path on this car as once you start this there is a host of other things you SHOULD do...all I am doing is lowering the centre of gravity thus reducing initial inertia and subsequently body roll, sway bars would enhance this, however they will be limited in their effectiveness at this stage due to the high centre of gravity of the car to start with... Also the springs assist in reducing the affect of unsprung mass (which also affects body roll), thus why standard shockies wear out quicker resulting, unless sprung to heavily, is greater road holding, especially when you consider that most front wheel drive cars have a tendancy towards understeer, made worse by heavily weighted springs causing massive bump steer. In the end there is a compromise, especially for a street car. Geez, sorry about the short novel.... :D