BigBad64

Page attached, hope it's big enough to see properly. Speaker in the picture seems to be back left somewhere. I haven't listened closely in the Kluger to hear where it actually is.

I went ahead and ordered the "JDM Toyota Premium Horns" from Ebay ($110.73 delivered from Japan) and they arrived in about 8 days. They were very easy to install. I just removed the black plastic grille/radiator cover by taking out the 11 plastic clips that hold it on. This was easy after reading Post #71 here; http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showthre...8864&page=5 A good tip from Hado was be careful handling them because if you drop them down in the engine bay things could get frustrating. Then I used a 12mm socket spanner to undo the bolt holding the horn on (you don't have to worry about trying to hold the nut at the back because it's hard welded to the frame - well done Toyota). The wiring clicks out of the horn by pushing a plastic lever at the side of the connector and pulling down. Click the wire into the new horn (exact same connection - fits perfectly), re-attach bolt and tighten and then do the same with the 2nd horn. Replace the grille/radiator cover by re-inserting the 11 plastic clips. Completed in about 30 minutes. They look like the pictures at post #60 @ http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showthre...8864&page=4 The new horns sound a bit louder and have a deeper note. I actually jumped the gun and ordered these horns before even hearing the OEM Kluger horn. This was after reading a lot of posts saying how ordinary it was. When I actually heard the OEM horn after getting the vehicle home I didn't think it was that bad to be honest. Having actually spent the money I felt obliged to put them on when they arrived. In my personal opinion they're better, but I wouldn't say this was a necessary modification.

acorn, all I've got is the Owner's Manual which says nothing about how to install them other than "It is recommended that this product is installed by your Toyota Dealer". Sorry.

I'll have a look tonight when the wife gets home in it. If the manual is with the books I'll let you know.

I suppose I just assumed they'd provide a full tank of fuel and was more surprised than anything. Looks like it depends on the dealer, or as Blackkluger said, make it a part of the sale conditions. Oh well, what's another $60 when I spent that much I suppose. :P Cheers.

Picked up the new Kluger yesterday and when driving off I was surprised to hear my wife say we only had 1/4 of a tank of fuel. So the first drive included a trip to the service station to put in $60 worth of fuel. I though that was a bit stingy, having just bought $50,000 worth of car. Is it standard practice now to not get a full tank of fuel at delivery?

Has anyone got these "JDM Toyota Premium Horns" or seen them in action? They were mentioned in the Toyota Nation link in the first post in the thread. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-TOYOTA-...sQ5fAccessories Are they something local Toyota dealers could source? They seem to be a genuine Toyota part. Ebay only has them in international stores, nothing here. Cost about $115 AUD delivered.

I think I'll keep the RACV going also. We're up to silver membership and if you cancel it you're back to square 1 if you decide to join up again later. At the moment I have 4 quotes for insurance, AAMI are cheaper than RACV, even given the silver membership in my circumstances. I note all the companies bar one want you to pay through the nose to pay monthly and not in one hit. But this is the topic for another thread so thanks for the advice.

Thanks Dave. One query, we currently have the basic RACV Roadside Care on the Commodore we're trading in. Do Toyota provide any breakdown assist service as standard so that the RACV membership wouldn't be required? I know on the new little Mazda 2 I bought 12 months ago it had "Mazda Assist" which made the RACV cover unnecessary.

Thanks to everyone who took the time to reply with advice. I signed up for a Merlot Red KX-R 7-seater AWD today with quite a few accessories. (Including side-steps) I'm happy with the deal and looking forward to getting it in a couple of weeks time. :D Cheers.

I've just about got a deal nailed down for the new Kluger and just need to decide on side-steps. Can a few of those people who have them tell me their thoughts? If you got a new Kluger would you have them on again? Do they ever hit you in the shins getting in/out? (As one salesman advised me)

Bump.

When you order Toyota Genuine Accessories as part of a new vehicle sale eg nudge bar, parking sensors, tow bar etc, are they fitted at the factory as the car is built or are they put on after the car arrives at the dealership?

Another query, if I want to take the Kluger to be serviced at the local Toyota dealer, but I bought it somewhere else, do I still get the Toyota Advantage fixed price servicing?

Found this for anyone interested in what the law in Victoria says re snow chains; http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/RoadSa...Snow+Chains.htm

Cheers Fritz, I'm reading through all those threads you mentioned. It's a pity all of the posters don't specify if they have a 4WD/AWD or 2WD/FWD model Kluger under their "Toyota Model". That would make things a bit easier to follow. ("FWD" initially confused me, I naively thought that stood for "Four Wheel Drive". What are the accepted descriptions that are supposed to be used for the 2 variants on the forums?)

Thanks guys. Your info and all the other info on here is great. I've been sitting here combing the forum for about 3 hours straight. Haven't even had lunch yet! I especially read the 2WD vs AWD thread to try and justify the AWD decision in my own mind given the price difference. The boat is just on the wish-list, and the snow might be only bi-annual if we're lucky. My wife has a straightforward approach to this - "If we get something that big then we're getting 4WD". One thing I notice is that in the official Toyota specs the fuel economy quoted is the same for 2WD & AWD KX-R models, yet in practice people on the forum seem to get better economy in the 2WD's. Are Toyota being unrealistic quoting the same fuel economy figure for both models?

Thanks for the replies and I'll look at those threads that were mentioned. Any thoughts on new versus used with low kilometres, such as a demo model etc?

Hi all, just joined and 1st time poster. We're looking at trading in the Commodore Wagon early in the New Year and I'm keen on getting a Kluger to get a larger, higher and safer vehicle for the family that will enable the odd trip to the snow etc. In a few years we're looking to maybe get a boat so I want to allow for towing that also. I like the look of the Kluger and am impressed by the "Service Advantage" fixed price servicing. The vehicle will be driven 90% of the time by my wife in an urban environment. I'm looking at the KX-R AWD 5-seater model as I don't need all the bells and whistles of the KX-S or Grande, and can't justify the extra expense. What I'm looking for is some advice from all you guys that have "been there - done that" in regards to your experiences in this situation. What would you do differently next time with regards to the purchase? Should I stick with new or look around for a 2nd hand one with low km's? What genuine accessories are worth getting from Toyota? I'm looking at the tow-bar, mudguards & headlamp covers. I was thinking about the reverse park sensors but are they necessary given the rear camera? Anyway , all advice is welcome so I can hopefully make an informed decision when the time comes. Thanks in advance.