I find user tyre reviews to be rather subjective though. I've just taken delivery of my kluger and I find it really quiet on the stock tyres; although I did have underbody rust protection done and apparently that helps reduce road noise from entering the cabin. how long did it take you to do 50,000km on your stock tyres? Just have to bear in mind, by the time you hit 50,000km, the tyres may be 3 or 4 years old and the rubber would have started to harden from UV exposure and heat cycles; they will be a lot noisier than new. Bought my vehicle brand new in July 08. Had it for exactly 2 years and done near on 50k. All road driving. Bridgies were noisey from the start but worse now. Hadn't heard about the rust protection so that is interesting. Pirelli is another option I am looking at. Wow I wish this was easier.... Thanks for the imput, I do appreciate it. e