+1 But, it should succeed in taking some sales away from the performance Falcons and Commodores. That comment has got to have come from someone who has never driven a HSV or an FPV. No offence intended. Seriously guys and girls, a front driver will NEVER EVER compete with large engined, rear drive cars in this country, they have a completely different target audience. AWD has proven itself a contender, FWD never will. I honestly thought Toyota would remove the cardigan this time, obviously I was mistaken. Sorry mate, but I've driven performance Holdens and Fords before, so I'll take a little offence to that. If you took the time to read other threads about the Aurion, you'll see I've mentioned almost word for word what you said and thus agree with you, regarding "a front driver will NEVER EVER compete with large engined, rear drive cars in this country". And I only said some sales, not a big percentage. Many people buy HSVs and FPVs just for the badge, not the driving experience. It's these people that may be inclined to go to the performance Aurion. I struggle to see how this will compete with the HSV GTS and Force6/Force8 twins, which is obviously Toyota's aim if they plan on pricing the Aurion at that low-70s mark. I was under the impression it'd come out for maybe high-50s originally.