blacktux

Dear Moderator, This happen after the rebuild from the excessive oil consumption. It is important for members to be aware of this and the risks of the rebuild. When this happens the oil pressure light comes on.

Again the same thing happened twice in one day. Fuel cap wasn't loose. Has anyone else seen this?

New issue with the RAV4 2013, today the wife got Check AWD System, high temp, engine light and the car just stopped. Other Toyota forums reference the fuel cap is loose but I did check this. Luck the Toyota dealer was 3 blocks away, they run diagnostics and found nothing. Has anyone else seen this issue?

No the rebuild doesn't fix the problem, however it does reduce the the oil consumption. Before rebuild I was adding oil 5000kms and after its 8000-9000kms. I can live with that. Request a oil consumption test and the rebuild.

I've been dealing with Belconnen Toyota, ask for the General Service Manager. He is well aware of this issue. You will have to go through the process of a oil comsumption testing but it should lead to a rebuild.

Also major defect according to people i spoke to is; something that keeps the vehicle off the road for extended period of time. Low oil pressure isnt that, just add oil in the next 300kms.

Toyota’s response on running out of oil was, it’s a low pressure indicator light not low on oil light. Same thing to me but not to Toyota. And yes i still have the RAV, I was lucky that we purchased during the 7 year warranty promotion.

Sorry hear about your Rav4 issues. I've looked at legal action and spoken to consumer law experts. I've spent good money on this. Its not worth it. Hate to say you have two options; (1) sale the RAV4 or (2) get the rebuild and live with it. Yes there is consumer law about this, but Toyota Australia states this is minor defect not a major. The motor industry experts I've spoken also call this a minor defect. Toyota will also get the engine rebuid done in a week. The cost of testing this in court and the risks associated with losing was too high for me to continue. I was adding 1ltr of oil every 5000kms and after the rebuild i get 9000kms before the oil light.

The issue I found on legal action against Toyota; in court they will use the engine manufacture guidelines for oil consumption to determine what is 'normal'. I have spoken to someone in NRMA legal about this. So if Toyota has published the RAV4 uses 250-300ml per 1,000km as 'normal' you have no case. I haven't looked for what Toyota guidelines for motor is yet.

To those who have traded in your RAV4 lemon; did you trade it in at a Toyota dealership that was aware of the vehicle's history? Are you sure that Toyota is reselling the lemon?

I understand and respect your discussion but I am going to see this out. My extended warranty doesnt run out until 2021 / 175,000 km.

Yesterday in my free 15 minutes with the ACT Law Society I spoke with a lawyer from Maurice Blackburn. I was told the issue is with testing the definition "Major Failure" in court. We also have two options to follow Australian Consumer Law and Contract Law (breach of contract). My rebuild is schedule soon, just waiting on parts. Has anyone gone for a second or third rebuild yet?

Update: my toyota dealer is willing to rebuild the engine after the letter requesting a full refund. I've spoken to ACCC and done more research about ACL section 260 'major failure' and section 259(1) what constitutes a 'major failure'. The ACCC discussion has reached the end of the line. I am now dealing with the Office of Fair Trading. The Office of Fair Trading has stated that my toyota dealer must be given the option to make good under the ACL and a 'major failure' point section 259(1)(a) "the goods would not have been acquired by a reasonable consumer full acquainted with the nature and extent of the failure" at this point doesnt constitute as a 'major failure'. This is because the toyota hasnt issue a recall and the solution put forward is rebuild the engine. Fair Trading gave me two options (1) take this to my lawyer at my cost or (2) let my dealer try and "make good" if the rebuild fails than at this point it could be considered a 'major failure'. But must be tested under the law. Again my dealer does not have to refund according to Fair Trading and then we go to mediation. If my dealer still doesnt provide a full refund we go to small claims court at my cost. The ACT offers a free 15 minute legal session during lunch hours, i am booked in next week seeking legal advise. I believe a engine rebuild by default is a 'major failure' this is what i will be questioning. My question to the people with engine rebuilds how long does it take before you see oil consumption problems again? The members who have rebuilds with no luck have you spoken to your Office of Fair Trading about a full refund? Depending on how next week goes with the legal advise session and the fact i have to take this up with the dealer, did anyone else purchase from Canberra Toyota?

Hi All, I've completed the 2AD-FTV Engine Oil Consumption procedure and still waiting for a answer from Toyota its been over a month now. My RAV used 800ml of oil in 3,720km (90% highway driving). Today I spoke again to my Toyota dealer and left another message. I also opened a case with ACCC to get the ball rolling. A letter is also in the mail to the dealer requesting a refund after speaking to ACCC. It should be a interesting month or two.

Talbit, I spoke to Canberra Toyota Belconnen about my out-of-schedule service. They will be running some diagnostic program over the next 2000km. I questioned if there is a known problem with diesel Rav4's and the answer was No. I requested for the service manager to speak to Fyshwick. Do you have a contact at the other service center how has been dealing with your issue i can put Belco in contact with?