Surfsideminer

Cool, I'm still procrastinating but keep coming back to the Joying. My search continues for a solution that is a perfect fit.

Keep us informed as you go.

The difference would be enough for an 8" unit to not overlap anywhere. :(

I will be interested in seeing if the app suddenly works on my phone. In reality in this modern world a standard Android Operating System with direct access to the app store would provide the best user experience and save Toyota a lot of dollars on custom app development.

What does a modern car really need?

A touch screen of decent size and resolution

Octacore processing chip

16/128GB internal memory + expansion options 

Connectivity - Bluetooth and USB

amplifier / speaker driver

A screen link app

Prefered built in:

DAB+ receiver

Video decoder 

GPS receiver

3G or 4G connectivity

Telephone SIM for independent data and dialing

XYZ axis information

Direct Connection to the vehicle CAN Bus

Software app developer interface port

I have ordered a full set of additional lights. It works out cheaper to buy 2+2+1, which I have done.

12 hours ago, Toyotas Forever said:

Also was mentioned the Koda model had heated front seats? What happens if in event of crash? (Would the seats catch fire?) we had a house fire caused by fan heater when I was younger)

 What are the features you love about this car? It's just one of the models I am considering!

What are the features you dislike?

 

Eric,

You need to vacuum the carpet before putting features on public display... The aftermarket bling looks good though :) 

RANT MODE:

When is Toyota Australia going to start penalizing the dealerships for having DUMB sales people who obviously have no idea about the product?

What happened to the FAMOUS TOYOTA QUALITY PRODUCTION SYSTEMS?

Lucky I am not a Toyota Japan or for that matter, Australia executive, or a dealer principle because DUMB salespeople wouldn't last five minutes in my world, they would be banished to used car sales, commission only.

Krystal,

Electric heating will become standard in all newer cars, the cabin heater in the C-HR is also electric and works within seconds of starting the car.

Electrical heating is a safety feature, especially on those mornings when the windscreen wants to fog up on the inside.

Hit the Start button, hit the front defrost switch and no fogged up windows when driving off a few seconds later.

GRANDFATHER MODE: (also known as school teacher or safety/risk manager mode)

Scalding hot water from old tech cars is very dangerous to have in the cabin in a crash. 

A broken water heater line or radiator in the cabin may leak or spray many liters of scalding hot water at well over 100DegC inside the cabin area. These temperatures will cause immediate third-degree burns to any skin it touches and as a result, the scalds could kill you, or at least make a very long and painful burn recovery with skin grafts, and other associated scald burn problems such as secondary infections etc.

HAPPY MODE:

I love the car and all the safety features and the dealer and aftermarket accessories I have bought, with more on the way :)

PROFESSOR MODE:

I had to design and install my own USB Charger Port because there is no factory option. This is a real oversight in 2017!!!!

ANGRY MODE:

I am very angry that we are forced to use Toyota-link, a third party app which does not work with modern phones and has not been updated for 2 years. I am also angry that the GPS maps are 2 years out of date. I will be replacing the radio head unit with an Android unit that works with modern phones.

Terry

Don't break your new car...

I luckly had a couple of socket extensions. I also used a piece of string across the socket to ensure that the bolt does not drop off when removing and replacing.

The Joying 8" Toyota unit would be OK width wise but is too high at 127mm.

The max height without overlap is approximately 115mm.

f I used the Joying 8" Universal unit I could potentially adjust the screen position to minimize overlap as it has adjustable screen positioning.

The Joying Toyota unit does not have an adjustable screen position and would rise above the top of the trim panel and may not fit because the C-HR radio has a step.

Using the Joying Single DIN 8" unit which also has adjustable screen position I could potentially fully customize the fit so that it sits directly below my carbon trim at the top and minimizes the overlap at the bottom over the air vents. I am confident with a rose gold screen edge the overlap would not be an issue for my wife and if she does not like the rose gold I could carbon wrap it also. 

 Comments or suggested alternate units would be appreciated before I commit cash.

That and the one on the other side are the welded tabs on my car. To me, not that I explored very hard, looked like they were designed to snap very easily as a tamper indicator. Maybe I am just a bit paranoid but have a look at the trim panel you removed and see if it appears to have been connected at those points.

1 hour ago, ChittyChittyCHR said:

Snapped back in and is secure. Hopefully it'll be good in the long run! 

Excellent. It will save me some time.

There are/were welded tabs either side of the trim plate that you removed. I only observed the welded tabs after removing the whole top trim and considered breaking them when setting up for the carbon wrapping. I kept the tabs intact as my concern was security of the trim plate and the potential for future rattling or the trim plate falling off on corregated roads or pot holes. You can see where the welded plastic tab was on the right side of the photo just above the bolt, there is a second one opposite. They looked small and easily broken and this is obviously the case as you have demonstrated. If the trim plate went back in securely then I may just have been overcautious. It took me a long time and lots of procrastination to remove everything the first time. If all is well and it is holding in properly, I will consider your shortcut next time.

Based on design I am working on the theory that the wiring harnesses on the C-HR radio is the same as the Corolla and most other late model Toyota's. At the moment I am procrastinating over a 7" or 8" replacement. If I can find an appropriately sized 8" that can sit flush against the radio trim plate without overlapping the clock, sides or top, I will seriously consider it.

A  work colleague told me yesterday that their uncle imported a hybrid Koba into Singapore and is trying to break the 1000k before refuelling. Seems like lots of people enjoy the economy. 

I did the 1000k check up.

I used it for them to fix the stuff ups with the non-scratch clear plastic door handle guards and fix the bolt they didn't have installed correctly on my side steps. They still didn't install the guards correctly the second time around so I gave up.

The car also had a clicking noise I wanted them to check out, it is a known problem on the rear sway bar blocks on some C-HRs and the noise transfers into the body. They removed, photographed and refitted them but they started clicking again a few Ks down the road. I'm not sure if the noise has gone away or if I have become used to it and now block it out.

I never even got a response from them and cannot be bothered putting up the money again to check.

3 hours ago, ChittyChittyCHR said:

It would pay to clarify if a third party accessory could be bought to get he factory camera and steering wheel controls in. Such things exist for other manufacturers. 

I had put in my original email to Joying that it would be good I could remap the talk steering wheel button could be mapped to start "Hello Google". The units suggested have key mapping so I am thinking that the comment is in relation to that.   

I don't want to pull the dash apart again to check the rear camera plug size, EBay has them from $20+ upwards.

Maybe not a good idea then. 

It is nice to see that the Chinese Manufacturers can respond in a timely manner. I still have not had a response from Toyota-Link.

Unfortunately not fully compatible unless someone can develop an adapter to use the original reversing camera:

On Monday, 24 July 2017, 10:07, Joying Head Unit manufacturer wrote:

Hi Terence,

Nice day, this is Mandy from JOYING :-)

For your car, suggest you install our below 8" Toyota head unit with Android 6.0 2GB ram 32GB flash:

https://www.carjoying.com/joying-new-android-6-0-car-stereo-with-gps-navigation/toyota-android-6-0-car-stereo/782.html

And need this harness:

https://www.carjoying.com/joying-harness/toyota-harness/joyingr-toyota-hilux-wiring-harneddcar-audio-stereo-radio-plug-lead-wire-loom-connector-adaptor.html

If you really want to install 7" head unit, pls check as below:

1) Need this trim kit:

https://www.carjoying.com/car-accessories/other-car-accessories/car-head-unit-facia-plate-pannel-dash-radio-install-trim-kit-for-toyota.html

2) Need this harness:

https://www.carjoying.com/joying-harness/toyota-harness/joyingr-toyota-hilux-wiring-harneddcar-audio-stereo-radio-plug-lead-wire-loom-connector-adaptor.html

3) And then you can install below 7" head unit with Android 6.0 2GB ram 32GB flash:

https://www.carjoying.com/joying-newest-ram-2gb-rom-32gb-new-android-6-0-1-marshmallow-system-7inch-double-2din-hd-1024-600-head-unit-837.html

Here is the compatible DAB+: https://www.carjoying.com/car-accessories/dab/joying-digital-audio-broadcasting-dab-usb-antenna-touch-control-on-universal-android-car-auto-radio-head-unit.html

You can connect 3G/4G hotspot sharing from your mobile phone

Our head unit can not support to remap your steering wheel control, also can not support your factory back up camera, you can install our back up camera as below: (Highlight Mine)

https://www.carjoying.com/car-accessories/rear-view-camera/170-cmos-joying-night-vision-waterproof-universal-car-rear-view-reverse-backup-camera.html

Best regards

Mandy

Add joy to your car with Joying!!!

Website: https://www.carjoying.com/

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Trent,

As a mod can you move the posts into a new thread?

It might give people an idea of what you mean.

4 hours ago, Southpatt said:

unless they remove the toyota link app and let the streaming service connect directly through the phone - as mazda do - I wont be touching it

I have to agree with Glen.

I prefer to have a head unit that I can control without using a mandated 3rd party app that in combination does less than a $100 android unit can do.

We live in a connected wireless world where people are supposed to be capable of making their own decisions on the software they chose to use.

Does anyone have access to a ruler and a late model Toyota Corolla?

I have a theory that the Faceplate dimensions on the Corolla are the same as the C-HR. Japanese efficiency for a low volume car like the C-HR would almost guarantee this hypothesis.

I notice that a generic rectangular unit will not fit due to the radiused corners on the C-HR Unit or I would pull my aftermarket Android Unit out of my Transit Van.

The Corolla units online seem to have similar radius corners.

Any takers for confirming my theory?

I looked at all of the European accessory installation instructions sheetsthat I could find. I think it was the one for installing the wireless hotspot which sits in the centre console. The upper dash removal is slightly different for the Australian variant but a bit of care and planning overcame the differences without any damage.

1 hour ago, Justin70 said:

First time letting the car do all the braking was mentally taxing but I've quickly come to trust it. The strange bit for me was increasing or decreasing the speed as I was going by the speedo and not the speed indicator in the info screen. I was holding the stalk up and setting the speed way too fast. Quickly sorted that. 

L

 

Don't get too confident with the braking, I chicken out regularly, it is not perfect, my foot is always close to the brake pedal.

I didn't bother paying for extra tint, the factory coloured glass works well enough for me, day and night in the city and the country, sunshine and rain. 

I had the centre console apart before doing the USB Charger mod that I posted elsewhere.

I would recommend running the USB's from a new head unit down to the black on the front of the console where I put the USB Charger. It is a very easy location to access, much easier than getting to the cigarette lighter socket. 

Hi Justin,

If you are travelling on Radar Cruise you have a type of speed limiter.

Hi Glenn,

Sad news really I would be surprised if a dealer would agree to those terms, and even if they do the cost of taking them to court for breach of contract makes it cheaper to just bag Toyota out for their actions.

There is another approach and that is trial by social media or This Day Tonight / 730 or whatever the Trial by Television Media groups are called these days (I rarely watch TV).

The issue with doing so is that I actually like my Koba, it is everything I thought that it would be and more. This one issue is annoying and a reflection on Toyota, not the car. The more C-HRs on the road the more aftermarket options that will become available.

I have been looking at alternate head units and have considered seeking information for a plug and play replacement from a couple of manufacturers, such as Joying, Erisin, etc. Ebay sites do not have the C-HR on their lists yet. I have sent Erisin an email asking for a plug and play replacement.

Erisin Enquiry:

I am looking for a high specification 7" or 8" unit to replace the head unit in my 2017 Australian Specification Toyota C-HR Koba. The unit must be plug and play and support the Toyota reversing camera and steering wheel controls. GPS, Android 7+, DAB+, 3G / 4G hot spot. CD / DVD is not a requirement but Android Play and mirroring is.
Pricing and options would be appreciated.
Thank you in advance
Terry

I struggle with English and your translating Japanese... Lucky you did.

Terry