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I, too, thought it was strange. I was stuck on other ideas for the problem as the error codes - and their explanations - did not elude to a blown bulb! I was happy that the issue did not seem to be concerned with the original error codes directly (still very confusing though!). I would love for someone with more knowledge on the subject to be able to explain why it had thrown those specific errors after a blown STOP fuse.

Last and final update, and what an embarrassment! The VSC and ABS lights had me thrown initially as I continued to fear the worst for the Kluger. I had even gone to the length of purchasing a, "Foxwell NT510 Elite Scan Tool" - which is an outstanding tool I must say. Whilst remaining under the impression that this error simply needed clearing after the broken wiring on the trailer had initially caused the errors - I thought that I would be happily on my way. I eagerly scanned the car for these errors once the scan tool arrived on the Friday - it specifically contained the "Toyota" software and promised to deliver on all error codes...I thought that I was set. The scan tool delivered on its promise and picked up the codes for both the VSC and ABS errors. The information it provided concerned me even more, but then there was an initial error that it had picked up, of which my last OBD II scanner DID NOT. A problem with the brakes - P0504, if I recall exactly. I had to recheck the brake light bulbs. Upon initial inspection they seemed perfect, but this time around I gently tapped the bulbs and only then noticed one of the filaments broken on one of the bulbs. At that point, I was almost too embarrassed to stand outside my own house with bulb in hand! I installed new brake light bulbs to both sides, and cleared the VSC and ABS codes and expected it to be back to normal, however, the moment I started up the Kluger and applied the brakes, the codes reappeared and I still had no brake lights. I certainly wasn't thinking clearly. I then rechecked the fuses and found the "STOP" fuse (10amps) was blown - I had missed this too when I initially checked the fuses as the break in the filament was so small it was almost unnoticeable. A quick replacement of the fuse proved to be the ultimate answer. The codes cleared on their own and the brake lights were back to normal. Had I been more meticulous with the checking I could have had the Kluger back on the road without all the fuss and bother, however I do not regret having purchased the scan tool as it will be an obvious bonus for all future problems to come. Regardless of the embarrassment, I needed to update everyone on my experience in the hope that it will ensure that this is not repeated by anyone else - and a reminder to be a little more calm and diligent on the checking. Thanks to those who had stepped up to assist - it definitely helped.

A quick update - the bulbs are fine, both elements are as they should be - it would appear then that it is due to the error alone that the brake lights are not coming on at all. If anyone can confirm this to be what they have experienced also then that would be good to know. Thanks. Mario.

Thanks Ashley. I realised just now that I did not mention that the brake lights do not come on at all. I haven't checked the bulbs as yet to ensure they have not blown as a result of the trailer fiasco, but unsure if they simply do not work due to the error alone. Perhaps you could enlighten me on that one but I will go and check the bulbs anyway - it wouldn't hurt to do so. Regards, Mario.

Realisations have set in with your reply Tony, thank you. My trailer, I'm sure, was the culprit. I hadn't remembered that one side of the indicator lights had fallen apart internally and I removed the broken parts but left the taping up of wiring, etc. for another day as we rarely use the trailer. Naturally, I had forgotten, and didn't test it prior to departing due to the very short drive we were taking. Also, thank you Campbeam for your offering. We learned about the Shift Lock button last night when the tow truck driver returned with the Kluger. He had used the Shift Lock button to release the gear shift and then drove it onto the tow truck. It would have been handy to know that yesterday - you learn something new every day. After the Kluger was returned I disconnected the battery and left it overnight. This, unfortunately, did not clear the error lights on the dash. The ASC and ABS lights remain on with the warning to check the brakes and ASC system. I checked some fuses that may have been related to this but nothing that I inspected was blown. The OBD scanner doesn't pick up any error codes, as stated previously. This would obviously improve the chances of fixing this issue, I'm sure. I had read that it was suggested that a Toyota dealership would have a specific scanner to be able to clear these specific errors - perhaps someone might be able to enlighten me on this point? I remain uncertain of what exactly should be done to rectify this situation at this moment and would appreciate any further comments/help in light of the revelations about the trailer. Thank you both very much for the useful and informative replies so far. It is truly comforting to have the support of the forum.

Hello to all the forum members. I am located in the Southern Highlands. I hope that someone can help with any suggestions for my issue. Late yesterday I received the VSC and ABS lights on the dash of the Kluger. This all started after we backed-up a box trailer into a friends driveway - the error showed only after we tried to restart the car to leave. I have read about others who had backed-up box trailers and then received the VSC and ABS lights. Whilst interesting and relevant, it didn't offer any solutions that matched my circumstances. The Kluger is an auto and I cannot put it into any other gear as it won't budge from Park however, it starts up just fine and idles well. I can only assume that after such an error, being unable to change into any other gear is normal. I ran an OBD scanner to identify the reason for the error, it shows that there are NO ERRORS on the vehicle. I later read that the VSC error does not show any codes when scanned for, and that it cannot be cleared by the OBD scanner. I disconnected the battery for around 15 mins but the error lights promptly return and I am still unable to put it into any other gear from Park. We had to borrow another car to return home with the trailer. Things I have not tried and have recently read about on a variety of forums is the removing and reseating of the fuel cap, checking the connection to the EVAP sensor and the possibility of having to replace the O2 sensor - also, one other idea was to disconnect the battery for half an hour which had solved the issue and cleared the errors. Obviously, any reported error codes would have been very handy, but in lieu of those, would anyone else have any other suggestions for me that would help me discover what might be the problem. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. The Kluger will be towed home later today - thankfully it is only five minutes away - and I will recommence the fault finding to try out the other suggestions that I have discovered so far. I will also post any changes to my situation as they come to hand. Thanks in advance.