this is what redbook says about the 5y stivo (anyone know the difference with a y92 2005 model ?) * Private Price Guide $17,100 - $19,100 * Trade In Price Guide $14,100 - $16,100 * Average Km 60,000 - 100,000 * Price When New (RRP) $28,990 ----2 things to consider.. stivos are actually a hard car to sell, they really are, secondly look at the current automotive market, dealers are flogging cars for cheap because they cannot sell them. if i paid 16.5K for the car i would be happy. That's all well and good - but Redbook says the price could be 19 grand with 60,000 on the clock. The car in question has only 31,000 on the clock... so if its in top shape, the price is justified. I doubt the seller would squabble if you offered him a flat 20. You may even get away with 18 or 19. now your talking, offer him 18, he would take it. just dont pay 20k