Exactly mate..i wanted to mention the fuel economy gain too. I got the similar gain after deleting the mufflers and it sounds awesome plus the acceleration gain is good too. SImply loving it :) Also, more power and better fuel economy don't exactly go together unless you are making your engine burn fuel more efficiently... which there isn't much room to do so for a modern engine like this. not technically correct. By allowing the engine to breath with less restriction, you get less reversion into the cylinders, better scavenging, and slightly leaner AFR's as a result. When i put tubular headers on my subaru with no other changes, i had to richen the fuel mix right across the map as it went on average a whole afr point leaner. Ive no doubt there will be an economy gain, its common with most cars to gain economy, and you may see a slight power/torque gain from the leaner mix, but id imagine its largely a placebo from having a loud exhaust and thinking its faster because it sounbds faster. back to back testing would prove or disprove this, im sure the poster in question could easily do so with a g-tech. Personally, i really dislike the sound of the muffler replacement pipes, theres no depth to the note and its 'raspy' and makes me think of early vn commodores with bogan special exhausts. A decent system with jdm mufflers might sound ok, but its still an auto, and sounds like an attempt to make people think you have a faster car, when in reality, it wont add anything in terms of real performance without a decent ecu remap.. For me, id rather leave the exhaust alone, and work on getting rid of the resonators in the intake, these engines sound great through induction note only, and it keeps it sounding sedate when not sinking the boot in.. I dont mean to be a killjoy lads, but after owning a 11 second car, the Aurion is a slug, and not really worth spending money on performance mods in my mind.. (but its my opinion, and not meant to denigrate others choice of spending their hard earned..) Shadow: Are you saying that you have stock mufflers with the centre resonator deleted? RE the more power and better economy, I would have to say the economy is relatively unchanged and would agree with DJOKR. The factory managment is quite smart, and will adjust fueling, timing to compensate for the slight flow increase. CRUISEH, I cant see there being much scavenging on factory manifolds pumping straight into a CAT then going through the restrictive Y piece. On your subaru im asuming you had tuned length headers installed which are excellent at scavenging, which your standalone aftermarket ECU could not compensate for ( im assuming thats what you were running). I would think the same would apply for power. Slight increase but as CRUISEH said placebo as the car now sounds faster it feels faster. I to have come from an 11sec car (cressida) and think the aurion does alright, gets up and boogies, sounds alright (now) but still uses under 10l/100ks and the mrs can drive confidently to work and back. I say modify your cars as you see fit otherwise the roads will be full of prius's!! Cheers