yeh i know.. $160 STARTING bid + $25 delivery its not $160 BUY IT NOW... i think no1 have been bidding them lately... thats y the seller is selling that cheap... anyway.. if hes accepting that price... i'll ask him to sell them for even cheaper... by combine shipping and all.. but i reckon they alright (for 185 of course).. i think in IX, they were selling for like 3xx