2zz corolla

Springs and rear sway would be where I would start. If you need a price on stuff let me know. Happy to help out....

If you could get a quote on rear sway bar and include install price ( if possible if not just price for product) that would be great thanks. at the moment i am just piecing it together deciding if i want the handling or the exhaust system.

Thanks

dave

Perhaps some suspension bushing?

I'm running Whiteline Plus and SuperPro on my AE111 atm, they make a BIG difference, bigger difference than you'll get from a strut brace ;)

Whiteline Plus offer "Sway bar - ball/ball link kit" while SuperPro offers bushing for the LCAs :)

Wow you upgraded the handling of your levin i thought they were great to begin with lol. Thanks for the info you think that would help the rear? some time it feels as if the rear isnt following the front of the car :P it might because it uses a trailing arm (i think that's what its called). how much are brushings ... there quite cheap arnt they ...

Maybe king springs low, that should set you around $450 installed including alignment, or your could DIY ;)

Personally I preferred the stock suspension over just king springs only, or springs + shocks (which at this stage is outta your budget).

If you don't want to sacrifice comfort whatsoever, then rear sways bars followed by a front sway bar, strut bar doesn't add too much of an effect. I wouldn't recommend coilovers but everyone to their own.

cheers yea i think i might step away from the springs and go towards the sway bar can some one please inform me what a sway bar actually is and how much it will cost for one to be installed.

Thanks very much for all the info i didn't expect a topic that has been repeated so many times to still get some good answers :)

cheers

dave

hrmm $500 - handling i wld suggest getting king springs low ( not super lows- as these wld prolly scrap over speed bumps a lil and going up ramps)

And then a rear sway bar as they would effect the handling the most. front strut bar is prolly not going to make as much of a difference- and will prolly only add to the bling factor. so maybe a front sway first then a front strut - if u want to go down that road.

Good bang for buck , with coil overs - they can be pricey and in my opinion not really necessary unless ur going to be driving ur car hard.

Prolly after u can save up for some aftermarket strut bars - KYB's what i have.

In regards to echaust i would budget abt $800 to $1000 depending on what you want to do - if its just a muffler wil be cheaper.

but performance headers plus custom catback wld b more including labour obviously.

1) springs

2) rear sway

3) struts

Yea im not to interested in scraping every where :P. Im not interested in any bling factor either thats why i bought a corolla no offense :P i like my car as a sleeper. Ill try and find some nice sway bars then or save up and go for an exhaust system.

so from the info that im getting your saying its best for me to get a rear sway bar.

sorry i thought a strut bar and a sway bar were the same thing could some one please inform me about the difference.

thanks very much for the info!

u could also do whiteline rear sway and front strut, i think there about $140 each from bursons auto parts. There the first sussy mods i did and i noticed a fair bit of change in handling.

yea i was thinking about doing that but maybe only on the rear. i heard from a post a while back that the front is already stiff enough . Ill definitely give those coil overs a look. I guess i am kinda asking for the impossible, i am searching for improved handling with still a nice smooth ride and not scraping over every speed bump.

i guess i am trying to make my sportivo a wanna be civic type r :P.

Thanks again

dave

Use to search function, theres so many topics relating to exhaust and there prices and so on.

With your price range you could do king springs and lower it. should improve handling a fair bit over stock.

Yea thanks i was aware of that and i did use the search function but alot of them were full kits which were out of my price range. thanks for the info though about the king springs, ill search harder on the forum :)

I have a quick question related to improving the handling of the sportivo. I probably only have a budget of $250 to $500 and i am just wondering if i can do any thing that is worth wile to the car for that amount of money. I am starting to get sick of the feeling as if i am driving a boat :P. All help would be greatly appreciated.

Sorry i am so broad, i have never really payed that much attention to the handling of cars so i lack knowledge in this department.

p.s Is it possible to get an exhaust system for the corolla in that budget or is it best to save up for the CES cat back exhaust?

Thanks for your help

Dave

Hi there, very new to this site, just brought a 2003 corolla sportivo and am looking to modify my current air intake, the car has some power but it comes across as restricted as all new-ish cars do

Just wondering has anyone done it? have any problems? and what are the advantages? I know it lifts HARD at about 6,000RPM and i wanna keep that :)

i noticed also looking at the intake setup there is an aweful lot of sh*t plugged in / connected to / hanging off the airbox and air hose, so i need to know, by modifying this the way i want, will i damage stuff? will

sh*t not work properly any more?

ANY information / help would be greatly appreciated on this matter

Thanks guys and gals

Aaron.

hi there i recently did a super home made cold air intake ( ill take some photos tomorow. i think it cost about $30 as i already had the pipe. i just bought a cheap air filter (which i am regreting now with all the dust floating around :P)

basicly if you look inside your intake box you will notice a white piece of plastic stuck to the end of the pipe traveling to your intake manifold, all i did was strap a 3 inch pipe to that then run that pipe to the front of the car. (just above the fog light) with a filter on the end. This means you dont have to touch any of the tubes or maf connected to the air box. My moddel is a 2005 but im sure it is basicly identical accept for where your fog light is placed, this should give you more room any way and allow you to move the airfilter around.

I dont think you realy get any more power out of the car i think the power is just accessed lower in the revs ( this is just my 2 cents and i have no proof what so ever) i belive there might be slightly more tourqe as i can drive in 6th every where now when i had to drive in 5 th nearly all the time ( i am in a relatively hilly area)

ill try my best to get some photos tomorow but they wont be the best as its pretty squishy in there :P

Make sure you search the fourms as there is STACKS of info out there. What i made will probably be replaced with a proper setup when all the loans are payed off as im worried if it would stay on if i hit a massive pot hole :P

Here is the thread i started about home made cai ( http://au.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/inde...showtopic=23599 )

hope this helps

Edit:

I tryed my best to take some photos to help explain it, soz about the quality of some of the photos... i had to get in some pretty werid positions to obtain these shots .

That is the white piece of plastic i was talking about

Theres the air filter as you can see its pretty dam squishy in there on the 05 moddels lol

hope this helped

dave

Hey Guys & Girls

I have done a dyno run today and got 110.1KW with:

- Cold Air Intake

- 2.5 Catback Exhaust

now my aim is to get 130KW +

later on i want to get:

- ported headers

- full exhaust 2.5

- power fc

- cams

what else would you recommend getting to gain this power and also get a time slip of low 14.0sec 1/4mile...

Thank you..

110kw .... doesnt the sportivo get about 105 to 110 standard on the dyno or are all the ones im seeing running cais :P she wasnt running super rich was she

you should do an ECU reset, might turn out for the better.

yea i reset the ECU, i had to pull out the battery anyway

Mate that looks CLEAN! Im sure you are loving the roar, and if its any thing like the 05 sportivo the increase in throttole response.

Nice buy

dave

^^^^How are any of those corollas posted as new? nearly most of them have 100,000 kms on the clock? I have an 03 and have 80 grand on mine. They may look new but i bet they had their engines thrashed.

hehe i agree, theirs no way people wouldn't thrash a sportivo. If your not going to thrash it ( rev the thing to red line) then you may as well buy a levin cause thats realy all your driving. thats my point of view any way.

Congratulations on the purchase how do you compare it to a 182 i was considering buying one but yea ..... got scared by french reliability :P. No offense to any frenchies out there by the way

In terms of comparison, it really depends what you're after in a car...

From a pure motoring enthusiast point of view, the sportivo is a wannabe hot hatch compared to the 182. The 182 has a much more linear spread of power so it pulls easily throughout the whole rev range (0-100km/h is 7.1sec vs 8.1 for the corolla), and it would have to be one of the best handling cars I have ever driven due to the awesome level of feedback you get (I especially loved been able to lift-off oversteer in it). Not only that, it has more far more features and ESP which honestly saved me on two occasions. Fuel consumption was awesome too - over 76,000kms I averaged 7.42L/100km. The worst I ever got on club drive days was 8.5L/100km. The other advantage with a second hand 182 is they are cheaper than an equivalent sportivo.

From a rational point of view, servicing and parts are much more expensive (about $350 - 400 per std service) and it only has two doors. Also, it has a timing belt that needs to be replaced every 4 yrs or 100,000km which will set you back $1500-2000 each time. Quality is another potential weakness - if the car is looked after well and has been serviced by Paul V (the guru on French hot hatches in Australia), then mechanically there should be no dramas. There is the odd rattle and electrical glitch, but overall I found it to be pretty good. If the car has been thrashed or poorly modified, then expect some issues. On the plus side, it doesn't have all the "look at me" body kit parts which means you don't have too many people wanting to race you at the lights, and the police don't look twice when cruising around.

I decided to go to a sportivo because I'm now married and we wanted something with 5 doors, something that I can get serviced locally and easily, and something that I know will last well over 200,000km. Also, I wanted something that would feel more like a normal car round town and on the highway, but still have fun on the twisties.

But if you're single, want some serious fun and don't too mind about maintenance costs, the 182 is a great car too.

True yea the clios sure are the kings. Im sure you can mod a stivo to the same handling characteristics as a clio, the weight might be hard to shake off though. Don't believe that sportivo do 8.1 0 to 100 mate its more like 7.5s( i am guessing you got that figure from motor mag). I know for a fact they are quicker then 8.1. Far more features you reckon .... i reckon the stivo is pretty feature loaded its loaded with basically every thing you need then again i have never realy been in a clio , esp is not really needed in it, its torque takes to long to kick in :P. Would have been nice if it came with a diff though.

hope you have fun with the stivo.

Dave

Please post a picture

well i just want to warn you its laughable stuff mate. Its a combination of some quality flexi pipe , pvc and a apparently" high flow saas air filter ........ its no looker :P so i am just warning you . you still interested. btw the pics might not show much as its squished as !

i can still provide if you wish

Hi there i am a newbie to this fourm and to cars as well so sorry if this has already been talked about. Due to me being a student ( high school not uni :P) i am short on cash but i still seek to have a cai. I was just wanting your guys opinions if any of you guys have done this and how it went.

I am thinking of running a 3 inch pipe from the throttle body to the the fog light ( could some one please inform me if the throttle body opening is 3 inch or 2.5 cheers.) because i own a 2005 model sportivo i would have to cut a bit of the chassis to make so the hole can support 3 inch. If there is another place that i could put a CAI please inform me ! Not to excited to cut the precious :P.

Any way basicly my main questions is will my idea work having the cold start tube connected into the pipe, then the maf and then obviously a K&N filter at the end. ( is there any way the maf should be facing for best result.

Please inform me of any thing i should be wary of.

Thanks

Dave

Sorry to bring up a old post but i have recenetly finished my home made cold air intake. Its home job at its finnest, 3 inch pipe connected to the air box, with a pod running off the end of the pipe. Just wanted to raise a question here though, when looking at the standard pipeing at one stage it goes down to as small as 1 inch ( havent acturly measured it) what was toyota thinking how can a performance engine breath with such a small pipe like that and that vavume controlled valve all it does is let in hot air. It looks like toyota just did that for a quick fix and didnt spend many hours on it :P.

Then again the car was just under 30 grand brand new ... so they did do a fine job !

O well in the end it worked out well and gives a truely great noise. I hope theres more cheap mods that can be done. :D

car found :-)

2005 silver sportivo from a dealer. Paid a bit more than I would have liked, but car it is exactly what I was after (excellent condition, unmodified, no accidents and relatively low kms) and have some peace of mind with the the little bit warranty it came with.

now comes the fun of detailing it (something I actually really enjoy!), and then driving it :-)

From the drive back from Sydney to Wollongong it feels like really comfortable car, especially given how well it seems to handle (need to do some runs up Mac pass to compare to previous car). I can now see why it's hard to find a low km car, because it's so nice to drive!

One minor thing I'm thinking of changing is gearbox oil - the box feels a little notchy, particularly changing up and down from 2nd to 3rd, which is something i've noticed in the 3 sportivos I've test driven. From similar experience with my RSC182, I found that by simply changing the oil to Neo Shockproof it made a world of difference. Although expensive and hard to get, it was worth every cent. Will search to see what other people have done.

Congratulations on the purchase how do you compare it to a 182 i was considering buying one but yea ..... got scared by french reliability :P. No offense to any frenchies out there by the way

While the window is up, pull the switch up normally, and hold it there until you hear a very quiet click sound from the door. If it is just a auto up/down reset issue that should solve it. Disconnecting the battery will cause this.

problem fixed

Thanks dave you know to much about sportivos (in a good way :P) have a good one.

I have just found quite a strange problem with my rear drivers side window. The Window will go up and down but it wont operate when i let go. As most people are aware who own 05 sportivos if you push down or push up on any of the power window buttons the windows will automatically operate with out having to hold the button.

All the other windows in the car work perfectly. This problem mysteriously started happening when i took out my battery to look at putting in a cold air intake.

Any help would be much appreciated thanks.

I did make that, but they're not cheap... It would be cheaper to buy an injen or similar from ebay.

The battery relocation kit consists of the factory battery tray, some custom brackets to re-mount the tray, custom hold-down strap and posts.

Quite a bit of time required to get it all perfect, in addition to the alloy, the podram, the CNC MAF mount and the 6" base K&N filter.

true ok well thanks any way. The battery relocation sounds like it could be a posibility all depends if i get off my ****. I had a look on ebay failed to find any thing at the moment hope fully some miricle happens and i can find some one who is willing to sell me a cai with out a pod for under $150. (hint hint :P)

Sure pippy soz its my first week on the fourm still learning every thing :P

Whatever you do, dont hack up your factory airbox, you'll regret it when the time comes to sell the car. Corolla's are more valuable stock than they are modified.

This is one I knocked up, no 90deg bends used

Did you create that. very nice job i would even be interested in buying one off you if you made another. did you find it hard to do battery relocation ?

I made my own CAI. The car isn't here at the moment so no pics yet. All u need is a 3" 90 degree mandrel bend, some silicone joiners, clamps and a decent pod filter.

U'll need to either make a battery tray where the stock airbox sits or relocate the battery to the boot.

I really think it's better than anything U can buy off the shelf. It's just straight out of the throttle body, bends 90 degrees to face down into the guard, clamped on to the AFM which I cut out of the stock airbox to keep the correct inner diameter (don't use those crappy autobarn spec adaptors or it'll run lean) then clamped another straight 3" piece to go into the guard and fitted the pod from underneath. I also had to extend the AFM wires and slightly cut and fold back for it to fit down behind the headlight but U have to do this for any CAI on an 05 model.

It's still plenty long enough to keep the momentum of air going unlike those ****ty 'short ram intakes' and it has way less bends than an off the shelf CAI that has to go around the battery. I think te fact that it has a good 15cm of straight pipe going directly in to the throttle body would also help more even cylinder distribution.

WOW! you put a incredible about of effort into your cai. please post some pics up if you could ( Would love detailed pics but you dont have to) thanks very much been waiting for some one with first hand experince! Im not to interested in moving my battery though. Its a good idea but the effort required sounds like quite a bit for practicaly no power gain. Also im a tad lazy :P. I agree with you about the short ram intakes ...... the ony use i see for them is to use the piping as a holder for the maf and cold start then create a cai out of it.

I say again please post pics ! :)

dave

i'm guessing not too close to the pod filter as this will cause way too much air hitting the maf sensor resulting in incorrect air sensing.

if you have a look at some of the cai or sri it's kind of closer to the throttle body.

Yea from looking at alot of the pro cai's they seem to be just less then half way up the pipe...... o well cheers Denz- Sportivo for ya help. If it all goes to plan then ill have to shout you a beer as the commodore fellows say :P.

Have a good one

Dave

if you have a closer look at the snorkel it goes narrower, it does make it a little louder then stock when you have the cold air feed

theres no real huge gain but you can feel the difference from the stock snorkel

ok true sounds good. i am guessing your running some kind of K&N panel filter yea ? I just had a more detailed look then and it looks like it could be a good short term fix.

What is the cheapest cai kit there like $250 300 yea ?

Thanks by the way

Dave

well i still got the stock panel filter, but i definately recommend getting a better flowing panel filter

which will still cost over $100 FOR k&N BRAND

Yea i know that's why i am considering just getting some piping and hopeing for the best as i already have a pod k&n........ o well i shall have to see how it turns out , my friend (who is incredibly mechanically minded) suggested the idea of making a home made cai. He didn't realize how different the intake setups are now compared to the 90's though. Bloody maf sensors !

Ill attack it with him on the weekend or the next and hopefully all goes smoothly ...

Can any one tell me exactly where a maf sensor should be placed in an intake ?

Thanks for all your guys help.

if you have a closer look at the snorkel it goes narrower, it does make it a little louder then stock when you have the cold air feed

theres no real huge gain but you can feel the difference from the stock snorkel

ok true sounds good. i am guessing your running some kind of K&N panel filter yea ? I just had a more detailed look then and it looks like it could be a good short term fix.

What is the cheapest cai kit there like $250 300 yea ?

Thanks by the way

Dave

just remove the snorkel and get a flexi pipe from autobarn, run it down to the fog lights

cheap and very effective,

I thought the pipe connecting to the snorkel is like 40 to 60mm (i haven't properly looked at it). Wouldn't that restrict any gains at all? Does it offer a large sound improvement and a bit more power ?

thanks though i might give it a try on the weekend considering its basically a free mod

Cheers

Dave

What are you going to mount the MAF in?

The maf mounting/placement is critical for a properly functioning CAI.

Thanks that i was wondering my self i was thinking of just drilling a hole into the tube and maybe silconing the maf in place. by placement you mean how far up the tube yea ? I am unsure of how far i should place the maf.