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Talbit last won the day on December 21 2020
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About Talbit
- Birthday 02/16/1950
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Toyota Model
RAV4 GXL Auto Turbo Diesel 6/2013. 2AD-FTV
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Toyota Year
2013
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Australian Capital Territory
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I got rid of my Diesel RAV4! It left me stranded in a carpark and I had to get it towed to a dealer. End result was at least two zapped ECU's which was at least $4,000 +++. So with the oil consumption issue, the blown head gasket and now this, I'm glad to be rid of it. My conclusion... anyone thinking of getting a second hand RAV4 diesel DON'T !!!!!!
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Mark, Try here for the thing I found on the head gasket https://toyota-club.net/files/faq/13-01-01_faq_ad-engine_eng.htm or find attached the same thing as a word document (the formatting might be a little messed up). I'm still not sure where I found it but I think it might have been from a link to a European forum. It certainly refers to the diesel engine in question. Look down the bottom under Experience. I'd really like to know how many others there have been in Australia. Mine is going fine at the moment. Still not worth flogging it off, especially when I'll get nothing for it. Cheers Talbit Toyota-club.net.docx
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Mark. I don't want to start repeating what has already been said but the worst case was Jennifer "Upsetwithtoyota". The head gasket issue is as far as I can tell not related to the oil consumption issue. I can't find the link to the head gasket article but will be able to post it later next week. I'm on the road at the moment. The reason I still have the diesel is because the dealer only offered $11,000 as a trade on a C-HR. He said it has "issues" I said What issues? and they wouldn't say. This was after they did the head gasket job. I tried to sell it privately without success. I guess I was asking too much. So I thought Blow it I'll just keep it. It's running fine at the moment but my guess is the oil problem will still be there. The head gasket blew at about the 120,000klm 6 year mark. I can't comment on the later models but I'd steer clear of the 2013 model with the 2AD-FTV engine. There is no cure to the oil problem. Cheers Talbit
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I didn't know they continued with the diesels into 2018. The new engine you mentioned might be ok especially that there have been no comments on this forum. But the 2AD-FTV certainly has the oil consumption issue. My salesman said they don't do the diesels anymore because they weren't popular which is rubbish. The reason was is because it's a lemon. Talbit
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Further. If you look back in the posts you will see a link to the issue with the blown head gasket. Again the dealers say they are unaware of this issue. The later models might have been ok but the reason they don't make this diesel any more is because the engine is a lemon and they know it. Don't listen to the salesman. Talk to the service manager. If he says he's never heard of the oil problem then walk out and don't go back !!! I could go on but all I can say is buyer be aware. Because of my circumstances with the head gasket problem I now have two rav4. The second one is a Dec 2018 petrol purchased new last june. Last of the petro lls before the hybrids. Very nice. Good luck. Talbit
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Don't touch it. But having said that I still have mine. The dealers are lying. Don't trust them. They know fully well the issue. But my consumption is manageable. To add salt in the wound mine developed a blown head gasket. That was a drama in itself. Talbit
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Read my recent thread on a blown head gasket with my 2AD-FTV engine. My advice? GET RID OF IT NOW !!! Talbit
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No more from me !!!
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I hope by now you've sorted it. I left my RAV4 with my daughter while I was overseas and she reported the same thing. She said it was happening at night with the alarm going off randomly. I never found out what the cause was as it has never happened to me. What RAV4 do you have? Cheers Talbit
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I have a 2013 Rav4 with the 2AD-FTV diesel and was very active on this forum with regards the excessive oil consumption. I decided to let it go and live with the issue. It appears now that this engine has been proven to be a real lemon! It now appears to have a blown head gasket. The first sign is coolant being blown out of the reserve bottle under high pressure. I see there are no active posts on this subject but appears to have been noted in the UK. See https://www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/topic/105938-definitive-22-d4d-head-gasket-stance-by-toyota/ Does anyone in Australia have this problem. I haven't approached Toyota for comment. My service mechanic (non Toyota) says trade it in. It's not worth the risk of trying to fix it. Talbit
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Okay H4RD, what was the outcome. Are they going to replace the engine? Talbit
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I had a look at the new RAV4 diesel the other day. It looks like it's the same under the bonnet - just a newer look outside. But the engine is slightly different. It's still the same 2231 mL capacity. The model we have is the 2AD-FTV and the new model is the 2AD-FHV and in my case it's a 2 1/2 year difference in the manufacture date (June 2013 to Jan 2016). It's still a 2AD engine which I guess is the style but the next letters are different. I'm not sure what the other three letter refer to - different generations of the same engine? There must be something different or they wouldn't change the model number. Can we assume that the engine is the same but they've upgraded a few things - like fixing the oil consumption problem? I asked the sales guys and the service manager at two dealers now and not one of them would commit himself to saying categorically that the oil consumption problem has been fixed. Or maybe he doesn't know or doesn't care to know. Anyway, there is no way I'd buy the newer one just because they say it's okay! But it's interesting that this forum has gone very quiet. It seems no one with the newer engine has come onto the forum or started their own post to discuss any oil issues. Cheers Talbit
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Blacktux, Is it the oil pressure or the low oil level? It's the same warning light except the LCD panel will tell you if it's oil pressure or oil level. You've gotta be quick to see it. But you've clearly got a different issue now, whether it's related to the rebuild or not. I've decided not to go ahead with the rebuild. It's just not worth the risk and it doesn't fix the problem anyway. But I'll still keep an eye on this forum even if it is to keep it alive for others. Clearly Toyota don't intend to do anything about it and are hoping we'll all go away and won't bother them! I probably won't buy another Toyota except that my >15 year old petrol Camry still drives like a new car and burns NO oil. Best car I've ever had. I recon it'll last forever. It's approaching 300,000klm although we don't drive it as much now. Cheers Talbit
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Welcome to the forum which is getting very quiet. I think most people have given up with Toyota. So is yours a diesel or petrol? As far as we know it's only this particular 2AD-FTV diesel model which has the problem. See if you can find your vehicle manufacturing sticker (probably located on the door post) and see what your engine model is. 2 litres in 3000klm is a lot and there is definitely something wrong but my guess it's a different issue. Cheers Talbit
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Don't get the diesel !!! See in this forum with regards the excessive oil consumption. Cheers Talbit