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Well what car is it?? There are some cars out there that just don't attract much interest as they're not what people are after. Using mine as an example, its an '06 Camry Sportivo in metallic gold and its a manual - not exactly many people's cup of tea. It was built in July 2006, not registered until April 2007 and I didn't purchase it until February 2009. During that time it sat at the dealer and was driven around sparingly by various staff (20,000km on when I bought it). Apart from it being involved in a minor accident (merely cosmetic, it was backed into a tree, and has subsequently been repaired properly) there is nothing wrong with the car mechanically, it just obviously wasn't the right car for anyone until I came along :)
If you're worried about a car that's sat there for a while do your homework, what is the resale value like, what do other people think of it. I'm assuming its a Toyota, hence you posting here. Take it for a test drive, and a thorough one, not just down the road and back again. And if you're still really keen then put a deposit on it subject to it passing a full mechanical inspection by a qualified mechanic.
And yes given that its been sitting there for a while the dealer may be willing to negotiate on price a bit more given they will want it off the lot. But they can always swap the car with another dealer too. As other members on here have already said go in there and name what you're willing to pay - let the dealer chase after you.
Its a rav4 sx6 2009.Ive already test driven it,the dealer asked for a 1k holding fee.I refused coz i dont want to run after him asking for a refund if the mechanical inspection doesnt come to my expectations.In a test drive I couldnt make out much but the inspection will reveal all.Like you said and the others,most people after a rav4 want a 4cyl,but im after the v6. Now toyota is doing some driveaway offers of 30k for Aurion AXT which I believe is a v6 and the touring is 32k driveaway.So if the dealer doesnt reduce the price substantially,then I will drop him. Just one ques- do you think prices will fall further in Mar or will they stop in feb? Depends on 2010 stocks? Ta
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Hi Guys,
Why do cars sit at dealerships for too long? Apart from being a lemon or over priced,what could it be? I have been after a car and I recently went thro the pics of the vehicle again and in one of the pics,saw people in the background wearing winter clothes which means that the vehicle has been sitting at the dealers since winter. Now im a lil worried,really liked the vehicle. If the mechanical insp comes fine,you reckon I can bargain lower?? Ta
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Hi There All
I need some help looking around for a 7 seater toyota kluger, have found a second hand KX-S for about 41,000 with about 37,000 km's. I have also found and ex-demo 7 seater KX-R for 39,000 dollars with only 107km's. Firstly are these good buys and secondly which one do I purchase they are both 2009 models.
Please help in any way even recommending me a good dealership.
Thanks
Jules
NSW
Dude, I would suggest that you go to sites like carsguide.com,carsales.com,drive.com and carpoint.com and see what similar vehicles are selling for.You can also do a search under "whats my car worth" for a car valuation and see what a good price would be for similar criteria as your cars.I would be wary of demo cars,especially God knows how it clocked all those km's;have a mechanical inspection done from a reputed company.See link below
The sites that I suggested will also show you where the cars are and which dealers theyre with.Good luck!!
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What all is a used car dealer supposed to give me when I buy the car? Its been 3 yrs since I lost bought a car and I dont remember anything.Any input will be valued.Ta
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They say that not all used car dealers are bad,but how does one know? If a dealer calls you and says that there has been a lot of activity since you last came and saw the car,does it mean that hes pulling a fast one or were there a lot of people? He also asked me for a $1000 holding deposit for me to have the car inspected. I told him Im not paying anything to have it inspected and if the car gets sold after the inspection its too bad but when Im having it inspected,shows im serious and he should have the courtesy to give me a first go at buying it if im satisfied.I heard that theres no good day to buy a used car and its easier to haggle on a new car.Is that true?
There is a bit of an art to buying a decent car second hand through a dealer. A dealer's willingness to negotiate and drop the price depends on many factors such as type of car/dealership, how long the car has been on the lot, known visible defects with the vehicle, current time of year, his or her star sign etc etc
To me, and this is just my humble opinion, he wants a deposit on a vehicle as he wants you tied into the purchase in case the inspection turns up something bad. Remember though when it comes to buying you have far more rights than they would let you believe and at any stage (even up to immediately after buying it) you can walk away with your money AND deposit intact. Don't ever let a dealer push you around - some have developed a habit of bullying people into a sale and it can also be just to hide a dodgy vehicle. Never buy from such a dealer.
That's my advice.
Thanks for ur advice mate! Yes I never gave into bullying,so I told him off.I told him that I will get the vehicle inspected w/o any deposit and he can let me know by weekend if the vehicle is still around and then I will arrange for an inspection.After which I will then move onto the next step(haggling) of buying.He was just being a dealer,trying a desperate sale on the last sunday of the month.Now his tone has calmed down and become more accomodating.Ta
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They say that not all used car dealers are bad,but how does one know? If a dealer calls you and says that there has been a lot of activity since you last came and saw the car,does it mean that hes pulling a fast one or were there a lot of people? He also asked me for a $1000 holding deposit for me to have the car inspected. I told him Im not paying anything to have it inspected and if the car gets sold after the inspection its too bad but when Im having it inspected,shows im serious and he should have the courtesy to give me a first go at buying it if im satisfied.I heard that theres no good day to buy a used car and its easier to haggle on a new car.Is that true?
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The price at which the dealer was after is fairly reasonable, since it's a dealer sale. Go to carsguide.com or carsales.com and go to the valuation or specs page to have a fair idea of how much the car should worth. that should help you with your purchase.
Despite it not having rego.I reckon its a vic vehicle and I will have to pay the xfr fees,rego and of course stamp duty on top of the price? When I look at valuations,do I look at the trade in price or dealer price? Ta
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Im after a rav4 sx6 2009 which the dealer is offering for $33990 and has 18k on odo.It was dropped from $36k.Could be a demo or company car.When it was new the vehicle cost $46k.Of course I will have to pay stamp duty and transfer with rego above it. I think for this amount transfer will be $21 and the stamp duty will be 3% of price or market value whichever is higher. Do you think this is a good price or a price around 29-30k will be reasonable? Of course I have to get it checked my a mechanic from state inspections.Any info will be appreciated.A member had said that with stamp duty and transfer price could go upto new car price,but I think even cv6 new ones are above 40mark now.Ta
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Hi Guys,
I have a 2006 yaris yrs sedan.Was wondering if I can fit a baby restraint/seat in the back? Where can I find some info on the same? Ta
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It helps if you mention which state you are in as it helps to make the reply more specific. It can also vary if you plan on selling it registered or un-registered. In general though, if you are selling to someone in the same state and selling it with registration:
- You need to obtain a Safety Certificate before selling it (not sure about other states, but this is the requirement in QLD)
- Then you obtain the appropriate registration transfer form available from your local transport authorities website.
- You as the seller complete the section of the form as required and provide your current registration certificate to the buyer. You then keep hold of the appropriate section of the transfer form.
- The buyer then submits the registration transfer form to you local transport authority and pays the appropriate fees etc.
If you sell unregisted, basically you just obtain a safety certificate if it's stated by your local transport authority as a requirement, then you can simply de-register your vehicle and sell it.
As for your insurance, that is not something you can transfer. Basically from the moment you sell your car, you call up your insurance provider and cancel it. It is then the buyers responsibility to sort out their own insurance.
As for when to hand over the keys, that is at your discretion. If they pay by cash, then you can pretty much hand over the keys once you have all the money. If they choose to pay by bank cheque, if you are completely trusting that they won't cancel the cheque after giving it to you, then you can feel free to hand over the keys. But what you should do is state that before you hand over the keys, you require the cheque to clear first. At this stage, you will probably be exchanging licence details just in case.
Alternatively, you can ask for a cash deposit of like 10% or there abouts and then when they give you that plus the bank cheque, you can hand the keys over. That's what the guy did when I bought my car. It's your choice on that.
Thanx mate for ur detailed reply.I live in NSW.Like I said I have rego till dec,so its upto me if I want to xfr or not? Any idea how much a 2006 yaris sedan with 31000 on odo and good condition will fetch?Just an idea! Also there are a few small dents on roof caused by things falling off trees when parked outside.Is it worth it to have a car detailing done?Ta
Also is a cars age determined by it MY or year of 1st registration? Like my car is MY06 but was 1st registered in 2007.Thanx mate.
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Hi Guys,
I want to know what procedures/forms are required when selling my car privately? What all do I need to do and what do I need to get signed or give out signed. Is a bank cheque good before I hand over the keys? What happens to my rego and insurance? I have rego till dec.
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G'day and Happy Australia Day.Ive put an enquiry with discountnewcars for a new cv6.Lets see who comes up with the cheapest and value for money offer.Problem is that unlike the 4cyl there arent many cv6's out there,but let me keep my fingers crossed.
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If it says drive away no more to pay then EVERYTHING is included in the price.
If you can haggle http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/dealer/details.aspx?Cr=14&R=9934566&keywords=&trecs=29&__sid=12D9D865FF09&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&__Qpb=true&__Nne=15&SearchAction=N&seot=1&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294962855%204294962861%20245%20898&silo=1011 down the 35-36k then that's a bargain already. You could say at looking at the kms and age it's like an ex demo vehicle.
Ok.So with regards to the other used vehicle from 2009 we first discussed,is it a good buy if I get for a 28k driveaway? Is it good even at 30k?Ta mate.
with regards to the vehicle with 5600kms,it is a 2010 Rav4 but a MY09.So should price go down more.When I consider selling,will the vehicle be viewed as a 2009 or 2010? Its bit tricky.Ta
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If it says drive away no more to pay then EVERYTHING is included in the price.
If you can haggle http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/dealer/details.aspx?Cr=14&R=9934566&keywords=&trecs=29&__sid=12D9D865FF09&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&__Qpb=true&__Nne=15&SearchAction=N&seot=1&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294962855%204294962861%20245%20898&silo=1011 down the 35-36k then that's a bargain already. You could say at looking at the kms and age it's like an ex demo vehicle.
Ok.So with regards to the other used vehicle from 2009 we first discussed,is it a good buy if I get for a 28k driveaway? Is it good even at 30k?Ta mate.
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Toyota put a new 4 cylinder engine in the RAV beginning in 2009. When we purchased our 2009, we drove both the I4 and V6. We didn't really feel enough difference to justify the V6.
Strange... I have driven both Rav4 CV and CV6 there is quiet a difference in acceleration between the two...
I second that totally! There is a huge difference,v6 felt like being in a jet which was tearing down the runway for take-off! Once I hit the accelerator,the co-passengers were pulled back to the seats.Didnt happen with the 4cyl.
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A dealer is offering $33990 for a 2009 sx6 Rav4 with 18k on odo but excluded stamp duty and transfer fees.Is that a good price? I thought used vehicles dont have stamp duty? Plus the vehicle is a vic reg and when I tried putting provided vin no and reg no,nothing comes up.Is that normal?
I guess you are looking at this one
Stamp duty is 4% ($1360) and transfer fee is who knows what. In the end it will cost just more than the 2010 sx6 which is newer and has lower kms.
Yes mate thats the one.In NSW its 3% and I think xfr fees are $21 I guess. So u mean to say that if I go in for a new one then its cheaper? Take a look at a new sx6 price on discountnewcars http://www.discountnewcars.com.au/toyota/toyota-rav4-gsa33r-sx6-wagon-5dr-auto-5sp-4x4-3-5i-toyo10fd.aspx
Also mate,with a new car price offered are all these things like stamp duty,xfr fees and rego included? With the used sx6 on ,what should be a price negotiated if it has to be a good deal in your opinion.Ta
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A dealer is offering $33990 for a 2009 sx6 Rav4 with 18k on odo but excluded stamp duty and transfer fees.Is that a good price? I thought used vehicles dont have stamp duty? Plus the vehicle is a vic reg and when I tried putting provided vin no and reg no,nothing comes up.Is that normal?
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If cars advertised as 2010 but the MY is 09,should I be haggling for a 2009 car price with similar condition and kms?
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Best if you inspect/test drive the car before fixing the price. Trade in will be a massive lose for you. They offer you a stupid price and the bargaining of the new car is minimal because they think you don't have money.
Have a look at all these cars. Don't know how you missed them
The last link is looks like the best offer imo. You can haggle the cost as well so it will even be lower than what it is.
I missed all of them as I had put year from 2008 to max and price max of 36k and kms less than 20k.Anyway ta for all the links,appreciate it! Yes the last ones a good deal.Ta again
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Also guys,do I do an independent inspection before fixing the price or vice versa? With the trade in,do I talk about it after the price has been fixed?Will they allow that? Ta
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^ What ronnyboy said. You have to go to many Toyota dealers and see which one is the cheapest.
Apparently there's a new RAV4 coming out 2011/2012 so if i were you i would wait a bit and see what the new one will look like.
Yes I read that it would be in 2012 2nd quarter and I need to buy soon.With my budget not going to go up next year,I guess I will have to go for a used one only.
From all I searched,there seems to be only v6 around in that price from 2009.
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^ What ronnyboy said. You have to go to many Toyota dealers and see which one is the cheapest.
Apparently there's a new RAV4 coming out 2011/2012 so if i were you i would wait a bit and see what the new one will look like.
Yes I read that it would be in 2012 2nd quarter and I need to buy soon.With my budget not going to go up next year,I guess I will have to go for a used one only.
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Thanx guys for all ur advice. In fact I called the dealer in parra yday and he told me that he has no more v6's left as they are all sold out.He tells me that he has a 4cyl and it has no issues climbing uphill with a full load.That sounds more like a desp salesman talk.Yes I prefer a v6 but since my budget is under $40K,Im not sure I will get a new one.May have to settle for a used v6.But thats dodgy,if the previous owner has bashed up the vehicle,then I will have to take a mechanic and get it checked.Oh bother! Anyway ta for ur time guys,appreciate it.
I got my brand new CV6 for $38900 drive away so it's possible. The CV6 does around 8-9L/100km at 110km/h with hard acceleration.
Hi,
Where and when did you get your cv6? Sounds like a very good deal as now theyre offering driveaways at 41k. I testdrove the 4ycl and an sx6.Boy what a world of difference.Like someone wrote, "it just blasts the competition away". This is what Im after.Now the sx6 that I test drove is a 2009 model with 18k on odo and the salesman said it was a toyota managers car.The price was 35990 on the net but when I went there they had dropped it to 33900 and the guy said we could get it down further.Something amiss here?Why is the vehicle so lowly priced?Is it just me or is there something dodgy going on?Will obviously get a mechanic to chek it.Any recommendations for mech in Sydney?The v6 is a superb engine.Do let know,would appreciate hearing from experienced guys like you.Ta
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Thanx guys for all ur advice. In fact I called the dealer in parra yday and he told me that he has no more v6's left as they are all sold out.He tells me that he has a 4cyl and it has no issues climbing uphill with a full load.That sounds more like a desp salesman talk.Yes I prefer a v6 but since my budget is under $40K,Im not sure I will get a new one.May have to settle for a used v6.But thats dodgy,if the previous owner has bashed up the vehicle,then I will have to take a mechanic and get it checked.Oh bother! Anyway ta for ur time guys,appreciate it.
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The dealer said it was driven by a toyota manager previously.
Anyway,I will put on hold car buying till feb is over.There might be a further reduction in price as it will be 1st quarter ending.Might as well buy a new car,especially since prices are being slashed. 