Yeah, I know it's not fair. But the Liberty is a far better all-round package, and it's so much more practical, a car with a full-sized boot and four doors! Stock for stock, the Liberty is far more comfortable (duh) and actually handles better than the Celica. (I found out that the auto gearbox proportions front/rear bias 90/10, but can do 50/50 in 1st and 2nd gear if I force it in gear...) The Lib is auto, but it's got steering wheel controls + and - :D much fun.