"Well, for *** knows how long I have been in pursuit of changing the muffler on my car, 97 Civic VTi coupe. There were so many complications (mostly insurance related) but I am finally happy I wanted a nice deep purr, not a loud farty buzz, and when I heard about the XFTL I knew that was what I wanted. Thanks to Trav for helping me out with my questions months in advance of the purchase and for the speedy transaction once I finally came around to buying one. He is great to do business with, but you already knew that So that I could keep my old system intact, I got a spare stock muffler (thanks nobbs ) so the stock over-axle pipe could be used to weld the XFTL onto. After speaking to a couple of exhaust places and receiving a rude and dishonest response to my wishes of sticking a 2.5" inlet muffler onto stock 1.75" pipe, I was delighted with the guys at Kirrawee Mufflers when they said "Yeah no problem...$60....bring it back in an hour". So I went for a cruise, came back and they were done inside half an hour. In fact I was so impressed with their honest, no-bull service that when I realised they charged me 60 cents by mistake I took the $60 the next day. I had a grin on my face the whole way home, I couldnt stop saying to my mate "Its just how I wanted!!" So here are the results; XFTL muffler 2.5" straight onto stock system. BEFORE - http://www.geocities.com/session_51/stockoutside.wav (RC,STA) AFTER - http://www.geocities.com/session_51/twinloopoutside.wav (RC,STA) These clips were taken with a computer microphone from around 2m behind the car. While you are driving, you can hear a small difference when you are on throttle (throaty grrrrr), when no throttle is applied it hardly sounds different and when you back off the gas it gives a nice VVVVvvvvmmmm. Of course, when you are vteccing it the engine is louder than the muffler. And that, as they say, is that! Thanks to Alex Trav Kirrawee Mufflers " quoted from ozhonda forum