Hmm... what to say... For starters, in my honest opinion, I don't like the look of your Commodore. You might not like the look of my Commodore. It's personal taste, whatever. Look at my ride list in my signature. I've owned SX Corollas, a 2ZZ Corolla, and I also drive an SV6 Commodore. I never had any problem with my Sportivo at all. Was easily the best car I owned. Wasn't a fast car, but is definately a fun car. 141kw with the Sportivo, compared with my 190kw Commodore... I'd say they are pretty on par with each other. Commodore feels slower because it is bigger and heavier. My Commodore is still a great car, don't have any problems with it. But, people can't really go on comparing a 6cylinder Family Car, with a 4cylinder Corolla. 2 completely different things. Lets not even start the whole RWD vs FWD debate. You buy a car, and modify it to your liking, and preferences. This is why some people here have turbo 4's, and some people have 6L V8's. Anyway, so I noticed that this post is pretty much pointless. You will get flamed for having a Commodore and being on a Toyota site. Your Commodore is not the best car ever. But you are your own person, and can do whatever you like. As for Evans comment earlier about going up Nebo.... I think I'd keep up fairly well. Most the time it comes down to driver.