Hello to All I am disappointed with the Toyota Whereis 13 version versus Garmin's City Navigator Australia 2007 both of which use the Whereis mapping software. Garmin is far more precise in estimating arrival times (almost to within 2 minutes) and always, without fail, selects the shortest or quickest way which was not my experience with Toyota's V13. I cannot see why the settings for travel time are so conservative, Maximums are Residential 40km, Main Street 90 kms and Freeways 120 kms. What are main streets - highways? if so 90 is too slow. In NT the legal speeds are 130km? There are other issuses most of which have been raised by members in this form. Has anybody upgraded to V14 and if so, could we have some feedback please? Regards Mark P.S. New to this forum, Grande AWD, purchased 23/1/08, fully optioned with nudge bar, front parking sensors (my wife insisted), towbar, side steps, matts and cargo matt. Almost exclusively used on long country trips including night time which brakes my heart when I see the shiny new car covered with bugs of all kinds. There are one or two minor issues otherwise very pleased and happy with the car. I am ex Nissan Patrol, 1991 petrol/lpg so the contrast from one to the other is astonishing