silva..r those adjustable koni's? Yes they are. Do you really need any other sort of adjustment on your suspension unless you are at the track all the time??? How many people on here with coilovers actually adjust their set up once they have it installed??? Personally i think a lot of people buy them just to say " I got coilovers" and never use the abilities that coilovers offer. Once they are installed and set then 90% of the time that is the setting that they remain in. I can appreciate the features that coilovers possess but most people never ever use them. you can fine tune your set up when you install them which you can also do to a degree with adjustable koni's/springs but from what i see on this forum is people impulse buying just so they can have a set of coilovers. most have the wrong spring rates, dampers incorrectly set then it rides too harsh too soft and then peeps get on here saying my car does this or this and want others to fix it for them. If you do not plan on going to the track and utilising coilovers to the best of their ability then just go with good adjustable struts and springs. You can achieve the same results with them as coilovers as far as set up goes cause you can adjust the dampers to suit ride quality. there is less to go wrong as you don't have to worry about pillow mounts flogging out, spring retainers moving or coming loose and changing ride height. Hell my sportivo set up on Kings and Koni's with some Whitline gear handled every bit as good as any car running on coilovers. I am a fan of using the right equipment for the right job. coilovers are not meant for street use and are more motorsport oriented hence the tuning ability so it you aren't using your car for motorsport all the time then why get them unless you want the "brag" factor of telling everyone that you have coilovers. don't mean to offend anyone but hate seeing people spend money on totally unnecessary items. First i would like to say thanks for all the help from everyone, greatly appreciated. Secondly, i agree with you 100% about the coilovers silva, after talking to friends and people with coilovers, i feel that for the use i want i will be going for the first option i was presented with, as i see it, it is the best for what i will be using them for, I havent heard any bad reports on the Konis or Kings and most importantly i believe it is a good price for a set up like this. Coilovers would be a nice thing to have but as you said most people get them for bragging points!!! As i am a P-plater with not enough money (because my insurance is so high!!!) i will be buying the kit later this year, thanks again for everyones help, its good to know that TOCOA members are always willing to help one another. Levinboy