You guys are getting way too wet over this car! :P Dry up boys, i don't think it's as good as it seems. It's a good car being a Honda but up against the competition in the $40k price bracket it is figthing a very tough battle. Don't believe any UK mag reviews either, they are just trying to boost production for the UK built Civic Type R. Wait till it lands locally and in the US and read their reviews. As someone mentioned it comes with torsion beam rear setup, and WHEELS has already tested the car and said its what they have been worrying all along, that Honda going for a more cost effective Torsion Beam setup has taken a backward step in the handling department. Hondas have always been good handling cars because they were reknowned for their double wishbone setups in the past but now i think they have really gone backwards. The engine and gearbox might be good but just look at the power/torque:weight, its not very good for an NA car with only 192nm of torque. It weighs in at approx 1330kg, thats 100kg more fat than the Integra Type S which had 154kw and similar torque. Don't forget the Type S has similar engine and gearbox ratios as well. I really think Honda has missed the hot-hatch boat, there are too many choices on the market now, and sure it might attract 1st time Honda fan boys and people that love to rev and prefer NA instead of F/I (which i suspect most would have already paid much less money for a Corolla Sportivo ! :D ). The JDM Sedan Type R is more like it with the REAL 8800rpm K20A pumping out 168kw@8400rpm/215nm@6100rpm with 210nm of torque available from 3000rpm. I lioke the VTEC cam changover point of 5100rpm though, it's a cool 1000rpm lower than the 2zzge.