Buri_Sportivo

By the way, corolla sportivo is still in sale and it will be there till a new corolla hits the production line. bzzzzzt wrong.. the sportivo has already been removed from the toyota website.. and i think the last shipment has already landed LOL i just ordered my sportivo 3 days ago and 2.5 months to go. What last shipment? lol Check the build date when you collect it ... it will either say 2005, or will be illegal to drive, as the Sportivo no longer meets Australian emissions rules, hence why its been taken off the market. thank you, im definately going to do that. Im guessing its going to say 2005. Dont you just hate these gay aussie emission rules!!!

I think people comment on the Sportivo's lack of bottom end simply because at the end of the day, its still a Corolla and is still needed for things like commuting in peak hour when a lack of low-end torque really makes itself felt. Exact same engine in the Lotus Elise is not criticised in the same way, for example, because they're usually only used as a track or weekend car, where that lack of torque doesn't matter. Comparing 1ZZ to 2ZZ, max. vs max. in the 2ZZ you need 61% more revs to access just 5% more torque! Not a problem when you're up it, but a hot morning peak hour with the air con on high might show it up a bit. True!!!

I don't want to argue with anybody and im open to hearing everyone's comments with respect but, You sound like a non-toyota fan which is a first and i think your still forgetting the point that gti is turbo and sportivo isnt, gti is 150kg's heavier and sportivo isn't. Stock standard, gti might be a little quicker but what im trying to say is that, if you put both cars into tuning, i say that sportivo would come out more effective. I've been driving since i was 14. I am young but i am definately not inexperienced. Can you see a gti without a turbo anywhere near good as the sportivo? Because i can't. Ofcourse it's going to take a while for me to get started with the tuning because i don't want to do any mods or even go hard on the throttle before 4-5000 kms. Personally i even think that if the sportivo was a little lower and had 1 size bigger rims, it would look hotter than the 5th gen golf gti. That's just personal opinions but as i was saying, im trying to decide which modification parts im thinking of buying as im still not sure if i should go with a s/c or a turbo, but im leaning more on the turbo. Im definately going 18's from the Fabulous range but the first 2 mods for the car is wheels and some adjustable suspension. I'll paste some pics of the wheels im thinking of buying. Open for all ideas, cheers Buri :) Have to be in agreeance with rollamods here, you sound a bit on the 'missguided' side here mate. Regardless of driving experience, if you are buying a new car, you need to come to an understanding of the potential of the vehicle. The stivo for example...this is a car that comes stock with a reasonable engine, however poor transmission thanks to the clutch issue and i would say somewhat nasty suspension. Take a look at the users on this site as an example - they have not chopped into forced induction mods or engine internals for a reason. That sort of crap is extremely costly for these cars and basically it does not justify when you can get far superior performance cars for the amount of cash you need to sink in the stivo. If you do really care about performance then forget a set of 18's, they are for clowns, they are too heavy unless you have a spare 4k for some Enkeis. Spend the money where you get the most worth, as well as on aspects of the vehicle that are lesser in strength. I mentioned the mediocre stock sussy, a new setup there is a most worthy investment and will greatly improve the drivability of the vehicle. Aftermarket clutches seem to also have gotten a good appraisal. Start of with some basic mods, like intake and slight exhaust mods, so you understand really how the car behaves to modifications. If you are still so naive to think that sinking $10k of forced induction work into a stivo is worth it...go and find some people who really know about cars and they will crucify any super or turbo charged (sub $50k worth of work of course :P ) stivo with a $10k worth mid 90's FWD car varying from older rollas, to Daihatsu Charades. And these older cars will still most definitely outlast the somewhat negligable build quality of the sportivos. This sounds like your first car man, so don't be a clown and go blowing $40k on it after you figure out it doesnt cut it and you can only resell it for $20k. Understand that the stivo will never be an F1 car or a show car, they are good for a bit of a thrash and look the part, but IMHO it isnt worth taking it any further than that. Apologies to seasoned stivo owners on here, they are not as bad as i have made out, but Mr 18s Turbo'd sportivo here needs to understand some basic concepts of vehicle ownership for the car enthusiast. I totally respect your opinions and you are right on some of those points but im only thinking of adding a supercharger later on if i feel that the car needs it. Im going with cai and exhaust first to see how it starts to open up, powerwise. Ofcourse s.c isn't cheap but im only willing to add a supercharger if i really want to get my hands dirty in the garage. The first thing im adding to the car is either a new suspension setup with wheels or a cai with an exhaust system. I just want to make the thing lower first, because in some angles, the car looks horrible with that height. A supercharger or even a turbo is a long way ahead. Not money wise but because the car is new and decisions of reselling later on. I just want it to make a little faster and have fun with it.

Forget gti's, but im honestly in love with the r32s. They look and sound so unique. But the price tag is the negative side.

Yeh, i was thinking the same. I was having second thoughts about if i should turbo charge mine or supercharge but supercharging 2zz is much more smarter i guess. Then again, blowing 6-7gs for a supercharger on a sportivo is a lot of sacrifice. Im going to see how it runs with cpu, intake and exhaust and if it moves well, no need for supercharger.

Are those rear lights different to sportivo's down here???

That's because there's no such thing as a GTI without a turbo! :P I know that :P They have to put a turbo in it to make it fast. :)

im 18. Your not gona try to pick me up are you ? LOL :D

I would like to see your DRIVING EXPERIENCE in europe, record it on video and paste it on this website so i can what you really drive like. When you were playing with toyota's, we were putting on supercharges on m3's back in 1998(first in the world). Changing motors is easier than modifying an engine. You look like a gti fan more than a sportivo fan. Yes, i am new compared to u as a sportivo fan but you just don't see the basics of power/weight measures and tuning. Do you even know how much price difference there is in tuning between volkswagen and toyota??? If you prefer an ascent over a sportivo corolla, i got no comments to make to you. This is a GTI your comparing it to. Not a golf r32.

HAHAHA! you must take me for a spin some time! Anyone have videos of gti vs corolla sportivo???

What same dollars? lol, don't you even think that the GTI is over-priced. For *** sake who would blow 40+g's for a golf gti??? I could add 10g's more and buy a brand new sti or evo. My point is that there is a 10g difference between gti and sportivo. 10 GRANDDD !!!! You talking about tuning gti. Yeh blow 40+g's for a hot fast hatch and then say i'll add this i'll add that because it can't keep up with a 10g marked down price sportivo with a turbo setup & more power than a standard gti. The only reason gti has torque is because of turbo. Nothing else. Sportivo is n/a and it's good as the gti in performance. Meanwhile people do modify these cars and for performance tunes and money saving wise, sportivo would murder gti. Sportivo is lighter, cheaper and faster tuning wise. :) after taking delivery of sportivo and start tuning. I will personally link videos on to this site and show you what a gti can do against a sportivo. :) RIP-GTI now you might be excited that your new sportivo is on the way... but if you haven't done a decent amount of K's in both cars how are you even remotely qualified to comment on a performance comparison? from the cost of your list of planned mods in the other thread, you MIGHT get close to a stock V5 GTI's performance. Too bad if the GTI owner gets a $1400 ECU reflash... Then you're not even close even if you soupercharge your 2006 stivo :P You sound either young, inexperienced or even both... which one is it? ;) I don't want to argue with anybody and im open to hearing everyone's comments with respect but, You sound like a non-toyota fan which is a first and i think your still forgetting the point that gti is turbo and sportivo isnt, gti is 150kg's heavier and sportivo isn't. Stock standard, gti might be a little quicker but what im trying to say is that, if you put both cars into tuning, i say that sportivo would come out more effective. I've been driving since i was 14. I am young but i am definately not inexperienced. Can you see a gti without a turbo anywhere near good as the sportivo? Because i can't. Ofcourse it's going to take a while for me to get started with the tuning because i don't want to do any mods or even go hard on the throttle before 4-5000 kms. Personally i even think that if the sportivo was a little lower and had 1 size bigger rims, it would look hotter than the 5th gen golf gti. That's just personal opinions but as i was saying, im trying to decide which modification parts im thinking of buying as im still not sure if i should go with a s/c or a turbo, but im leaning more on the turbo. Im definately going 18's from the Fabulous range but the first 2 mods for the car is wheels and some adjustable suspension. I'll paste some pics of the wheels im thinking of buying. Open for all ideas, cheers Buri :)

By the way, corolla sportivo is still in sale and it will be there till a new corolla hits the production line. bzzzzzt wrong.. the sportivo has already been removed from the toyota website.. and i think the last shipment has already landed LOL i just ordered my sportivo 3 days ago and 2.5 months to go. What last shipment? lol

A VVTL-i controller only allows you to make a minor adjustment to when lift kicks in ... from the anecdotal evidence I've heard, maybe 5,500 is as low as it'll go. Even then, you make little or no difference to available torque, so the GTI still has the advantage there. Besides, if you're going to spend that much just to drop your lift revs that little bit, think about what the same dollars can do to the turbo in the GTI! :P What same dollars? lol, don't you even think that the GTI is over-priced. For *** sake who would blow 40+g's for a golf gti??? I could add 10g's more and buy a brand new sti or evo. My point is that there is a 10g difference between gti and sportivo. 10 GRANDDD !!!! You talking about tuning gti. Yeh blow 40+g's for a hot fast hatch and then say i'll add this i'll add that because it can't keep up with a 10g marked down price sportivo with a turbo setup & more power than a standard gti. The only reason gti has torque is because of turbo. Nothing else. Sportivo is n/a and it's good as the gti in performance. Meanwhile people do modify these cars and for performance tunes and money saving wise, sportivo would murder gti. Sportivo is lighter, cheaper and faster tuning wise. :) after taking delivery of sportivo and start tuning. I will personally link videos on to this site and show you what a gti can do against a sportivo. :) RIP-GTI

It should. It will be good if they put it into production line with a turbo. Im going to supercharge mine by the way :) 300hp fwd, 1200kgs, 8000+ revs , do the maths :)

oops.. :P Ohh ****t lol i mixed up gti with r32 golf. They are both fwd. Like i said, its not a big deal to make of. gti only has more torque and gets in action in a more earlier rev range. With that vvtl-i controller, bye bye to gti with extra 200kg fat.

You guys are making such a big deal of the GTI. Think about this, it weight near as 1400kgs. Where sportivo is just over 1200. It only has 6 more kw's and the advantage of it is the awd. It's normal for the GTI to have torque way below the revs. Theres vtec controllers for all honda vtec engines and that's the kind of electric unit that sportivo owners need to add on their tuning list. Just like those vtec controllers, theirs ones for vvtl-i engines. Which brings down the torque entry level to a much lower rpm level. (Just like GTI). As long as sportivo hit's the torque at around 2000rpm towards 2500, gti has no chance. :) It's only one touch up modification, but it's something toyota has left us to do.

This is what i think will happen. First of all corolla is one of the backbones of toyota and it's like bmw giving up the 3 series. Most likely a new corolla would be designed and put into production. Then depending on sales, they will bring up another sportivo of the corolla, if sales go well. Why do you think sportivo is there for corolla. Corolla helped toyota make a lot of sales. :) Let's hope the new corolla will persuade a lot of buyers so that the manufacturer starts to think of a new generation sportivo corolla. By the way, corolla sportivo is still in sale and it will be there till a new corolla hits the production line.

I don't think sportivo corolla is going to go off so soon. My dad is an employee for toyota and he hasn't heard anything of it. I know for a fact that, if a new sportivo was going to come out, he would've told me to wait a bit more and go for that, but im pretty sure that im happy with the current shape and performance of the sportivo corolla. :)