the only **** I'll ever trust is the following: 1) Lifting big weights, and training HARD out... 2) Eating natural foods high in protein, complex carbs and low gi carbs, and separating them throughout the day 3) Protein powder when you wake up, immediately after you workout (a powder with 1:1 protein to carb is good here, as the complex carb will reduce muscle breakdown) and before you sleep. Having said that though. BSC Lipoburn looks like a supplement for fat burning with training?