Too late unfortunately... Engine was in when I got her, trying to go for engineering Cert now... I'm thinking an extractor system from the VN years will lower the "Out" for the exhausts enough that ill be able to create the clearance with a custom exhaust. Headaches headaches headaches. I think i'll start a build page for anyone else stupid enough to attempt it. Considering I am new to the forum where would I do that? Ps cheers for the reply enjoying my first experience on a forum :)