Cheers guys, i was looking at the ep3, it seems like its a sportivo equivalent in terms of power output and might be better torque wise, however the crappy in cabin trim isnt really turning me on as much as the sportivo does. Plus, the type-r looks too "Tokyo drift" for my liking. That being said the celica, no offence, looks even worse. In the 1 month i owned the sportivo, there wasn't one bad moment i had with it (other then the occasional miss-shift). As for the other sub-category for hot hatches, i.e, vectra, focus, A3, their okay i guess, but still dont compare to a sportivo(I remember from test driving them, other then the A3(my mates one which is worked) nothing quite has the same "zippiness" as the sportivo).Even the new levins, my mates got one and its got no ball. I'll check out the type r for kicks anyway and see if i can get a test drive, as well as keeping my eye out on more sportivos. And again, i know theres a notion that you should by stock as a rock cars as they have probably been less likely thrashed, but is it worth checking out sportivos that have been modded with a little higher km;s in the $18,000-$20,000? Eddie. P.S hopefully if i do get my hands on another sportivo, i can just mod it with a powerFC chip and have even more fun. P.P.S, i called up a few guys and asked about their sportivos, i cant believe the amount of accidents most of them have been in, funnily enough its all front end damage. I learnt my lesson thought, NRMA inspection from now on.