What was the discussion? Oh yes! the awfull design of new cars. Its very simple, being almost a driving instructor I can tell that you might be the perfect driver but you always have to learn about the car to drive it safely. When I was teaching my wife I was not only interested in her learning in how to drive, but to understand the car, the dimensions, how it moves and to "see" in her mind the parts she couldn´t see with the eyes. The result: she can drive from a small car to a large car, brand new or pretty old. This is because she pays attention to the limitations (including visibility, brake power and aceleration) and the advantages of the car. We drivers are not "plug and play" in the cars, we have to adapt. So if you have 30 yrs or so of experience, you´ll have a huge advantage in adaptation because you´ve driven cars with no ABS, no EBD, no assisted steering and drum brakes. Those, I think, had bad designs but thankfully we have today cars like the Corolla, safer and more reliable... If you dont like your car, dont struggle, sell it or trade it. You more than anybody know that to drive a car being afraid is a ticking bomb. Dont suffer and live long Cheers AB